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Unread 11-17-2004, 05:12 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>“JUST SPIN IT TO 450” will work very well.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>What happens at 750,850 or 1150....?????..I'll tell you what happens...You start blowing legs off stuff.There is no way you can dispute the fact that changing conditions will also change the flight path of the bullet.If that spin it to 450 knob was made for one set of conditions,change conditions and just spin it 850 and see what happens....

Unread 11-17-2004, 08:25 PM
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Great Show. You're on in 1/2 an hour, so I'll hurry.

I appreciate the confirmation of the source. It just looked to me like your set up was or is different. Looks like you have Mk 4 turrets and your come ups appear to be "in order" for lack of better description. By that, I mean your turret did not appear cluttered, but rather a "4" which appears to designate 400 yards, and additional 25 yards ticks just like a tape measure. The provided website seems similar, but not exact. Possibly because your scope/turrets are only marked to one full rotation worth of come ups ? The 13 y.o. on the DVD did not have to check stock charts and log books to engage the 680 shot on the tape. You just told him to dial up 700 and back off one or so. He didn't have to count 68 clicks and dick around.

I wasn't willing to explain my ideas of simply spining and shoot, but my intended questions would be scenarios of carrying with a 200 yard zero and adjust accordingly to 5-600 yards, which to me, would be extreme range for big game hunting with lots of practice, yada, yada, yada. Never intended to "simply spin" targets at 1000 yards.

Is an instuctional DVD in the works ?
Unread 11-18-2004, 09:04 AM
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Long 1,

I know exactly what happens at extended ranges and have it documented on video.

You choose to post an example that showed you don’t know what really happens in the real world and were called on it. Now you want to change the example to try and prove your point instead of admitting you were wrong. Sorry but it doesn't work that way.

Jesse Jaymes came here looking for help and for some reason you felt the need to spout off in an area you have limited experience in. That is not what this board is about.


You’re exactly right in your assessment.

Out to 600 yds there is not much difference in the needed corrections for atmospheric conditions, assuming you are not talking something really radical like hunting Marco Polo sheep @ 17,000 ft.

The instructional video is in production but with the hunting season we have to get footage for the show and that does not leave much time for anything else.

I am headed out for some late season trophy elk hunts as soon as I finish hear so wish me luck.

Again thanks for the interest in the show.
John Burns
Unread 11-18-2004, 01:15 PM
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I have only seen the ads for the video/DVD and the TV show. I have been interested in and pursuing long range shooting since I was a young boy. Your system really has my interest up. Great show. Keep up the good work. Johnny K.
Unread 11-18-2004, 01:29 PM
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Re: John Burns-Best of the West- equipment

Mr. Burns

I'm at about 200 feet elevation. Its often times 100 degrees here.

Certainly to dial in up in the mountains during hunting season I'll have to make some changes. IE I can't zero it here etc...

What do we do in that instance?

Thanks, Jeff

OBTW I always thought target knobs were pretty easy to read and read them, never just counted clicks. FWIW
Get as close as you can, but utilize your skills as needed.
Unread 11-18-2004, 03:48 PM
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John Burns,
Don't mind the ankle biters. They're bad this time of year.
Unread 11-18-2004, 04:13 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>I know exactly what happens at extended ranges and have it documented on video.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Yes I know....I've seen it...I guess if you have it on video,that make's you right. [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif[/img] The facts are, and you even stated it in your last post.That knob will not work IN ALL CONDITIONS..Face it John,the longer the distance the worse it gets.I stated that as fact.You said I don't know anything about it.You have your own tv show,so people here that don't know any better think you are a god.So no matter what I say they will always believe you.Its a shame when someone can't speak the truth..
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