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Old 02-16-2003, 02:49 PM
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Illionois new Anti gun laws

Heard on the radio the other day, about how Mayor Rich Daily of Chicago is writing up some strict gun laws outlawing a bunch of guns, Semi autos, more handguns and so forth, he is said to have quoted "There is a chance these will get passed now that Springfield is not run by the GOP" or he was said to had said something to that order...
California, now Illinois, do the other stats follow? I live only 4 miles from Illinois, one of my great friends who I used to work with, lift weights, and hunt with, he's not liking it for sure, he's even a city police officer in his town...
Are we next... Illinois has feel under the demo-nazi leadership, people don't understand what if somehow the whitehouse, the senate, and house of reps falls under the demo's again? are gun owners meat in the pan?

Most the hunters in my area are somewhat democrat, say "they are not going to do that!" they think cause the local democrats haven't talked anti gun, that they are no threat... they say "The democrats haven't outlawed my guns so far!"
They don't understand the democrats are not going to come out on TV or radio and say they want to outlaw guns in a heavy hunter area, but if the high up democrats say to the local democrats in office "do it now, or you lose our suport and money" They secretly suport the new laws of thier leaders in a heartbeat..
I'm not the best at explaining this, but I just think it's happening little by little right under out nose, it's only a matter of time befor they go after scoped rifles, too much accurcy is dangerous to VIP's in political office

Another question is:

Why are the democrats so anti gun? I mean we can sit back and think they are narrow minded idiots who can't think more than one demesion..

I think they actually know the facts, the statisitcs... for instance Astrailia, crime has risin all over, home burgleries itself has risin a WHOPPING 300%... murder, rape, assault has risin 150-200%...
You can't tell me the democrats don't know this, they have got to understand "gun laws" only effect "law abiding citizens" for the most part...
I think the democrats know this, and make the laws to make matters worse "Vote for us, and we will fix it" same for the Race issue, the Republicans say "equel", the democrats say "Retribution", "payback time for whites", "lets give the minorities or blacks special rights in the form of -hate crimes- or -Afirmative action- and so forth and etc etc..
It sounds to alot of people like they are trying to fix the problem.. but..
They know that it will cause more trouble than fix it...
"Vote for us, and we'll fix it!"
It gets worse, so they make more laws.. people think "Thats what we need!" I'll vote for you!" They don't understand the demos are using throuble to start more trouble to get more votes...
I'm not sure if the democrats are evil like some think, or stupid, they are using "doom and gloom" making it worse, telling people at the same time they'll make it better if they vote democrat..

Sorry for the long post..
I heard this filth on the radio (WLS Chicago right after Rush Limbaugh) and it bothered me.

take care
scott
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Old 02-16-2003, 04:43 PM
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Re: Illionois new Anti gun laws

Dailey needs to be tarred and feathered,but I don't think these partisan issues are as black and white as they appear to be on the surface.No,I'm not a Democrat and I can see why sportsmen are so paranoid of the party.There was a Democrat congressman from Wis. who was pro-gun to the point of having a reloader in his office in D.C.! It was in an Outdoor Life article a few years ago.I hate gun control too,but it's an oversimplification to blame the political parties.I find that I stay less upset by not watching the TV news.If I see Dan Rather,I get like this [img]images/icons/mad.gif[/img]
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Old 02-17-2003, 09:03 AM
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Re: Illionois new Anti gun laws

I'll throw my .02 in here since I'm an Illinoisan & see/hear this every day.

The new governor, Rod Blagojovich, is possibly one of the most anti-gun governor's in history. He was put in office largely as a result of Mayor Dailey & Seaker of the House Michael Madigan's political machine - which Blagojovich is a part. He has spent exactly ONE day since his inauguration in the capitol, the rest has been spent in Chicago, where he holds court. While a legislator, he proposed raising the fees for a Firearm Owners ID card (FOID, required to buy/ sell/ purchase guns & ammo) from the current $5 every three years to $500 annually. His now infamous quote was, "I want to make you think twice about owning a gun in Illinois."

Even scarier is the new Illinois Attorney General: Lisa Madigan. She's an ultra liberal of the worst sort. She's was a 1st term state senator elected because of her daddy, Mike Madigan. She defeated a very honorable pro-gun states attorney from DuPage County. Her big thing isn't corprate corruption or ensuring victims' rights, it's being an 'advocate' on controversial issues & blabbering about her 'activism' while teaching school kids in South Africa. She showed her true colors during her acceptance speech on election night, "It's now time for some common sense legislation on firearms in this state" What do suppose that means? She scares me more than Blago ever did. Since Dems control the Illinois house, senate, & governor's mansion - it's only a matter of time before we're completely on the defensive.

Blago was put in office by two groups - the Dailey/ Chicago machine & unions in southern Illinois. They were snookered by the old 'Oh, we really don't want to take your duck guns away from you' BS. We will all pay the price soon. Only a few years ago we were only ONE vote away from passing concealed carry. More than ever there are two states within one - Chicago & the rest of Illinois - only one matters.....
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Old 02-17-2003, 05:24 PM
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Watch for more pressure from the Democrats - they sense that the down economy will help keep RKBA from peeling votes from the unions.

Illinois is particularly obnoxious vis a vis RKBA.
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Old 02-18-2003, 07:44 PM
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posted 02-16-2003 04:43 PM Profile for red ox Email red ox Send New Private Message Edit/Delete Post Dailey needs to be tarred and feathered,but I don't think these partisan issues are as black and white as they appear to be on the surface.No,I'm not a Democrat and I can see why sportsmen are so paranoid of the party.There was a Democrat congressman from Wis. who was pro-gun to the point of having a reloader in his office in D.C.! It was in an Outdoor Life article a few years ago.I hate gun control too,but it's an oversimplification to blame the political parties.I find that I stay less upset by not watching the TV news.If I see Dan Rather,I get like this


Don't get me wrong, I do not HATE democrats, my whole family is democrat, not liberals, but
more like FRD democrats...

I know it's not always 100% that the demos are anti, and repubs are pro, there is alot of republicans who are liberal..
but in General stronghold issues, the democrats are anti freedome to protect yourself with a firearm or hunt, and the republicans are pro freedome to do so...

Democrats today are not like the good old FDR ones of yeasterday, back then Demos wanted to help the poor, and believed in freesome of the people to have rights...
now 60 years later, the only poor people democrats care for is blacks...

Republicans care the same (or lack of maybe) for everyone the same, blacks, whites, yellow, brown, red.. there is no racial favortisum, everyone in the USA has the same freedome to make it big equally...

A few republican ideas I'm not found of.. say Abortion, I'm not for it myself, but I'm not for forcing MY OPINION onto other families ways, the same I don't want the anti-gunners being able to FORCE thier opinion onto mine.
Then on the other hand, the abrtion issue is to give WOMEN more rights to chose, not the man, who BOTH are the unborn childs parent...
if BOTH can't have a say in it, then NONME should be able to. "Femi-NAZI-isum" has got to be stopped also..

people say the GOP is anti union, anti USA jobs, maybe so somewhat, butlook at Bill Clinton, he signed the "North American Free Trade Aggreement" with no heditation, selling out American union jobs to Mexico.. are the republicans any worse than the democrats in keeping jobs here in USA? Doesn't look like it.

scott
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Old 02-18-2003, 07:49 PM
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Re: Illionois new Anti gun laws

Speedbump, I feel for you brother, I don't like to far from your state, and feel your pain... it can happen here too, give or take 2-4 years and all can change for the worse in ANY state..

Like have said to many my friends, I'm not really a big fan of the republicansm, I don't really care for the Bush's, but the republicans are "the lesser of the Two Eveil!"" boycotting both isn't going to make the problem go away, suporting ANYONE to drive off the Liberals and see em stand in the unemployment line is my goal.

scott
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Old 02-23-2003, 06:49 AM
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Re: Illionois new Anti gun laws

I live in the occupied state of ILL. All i can say is don't whine about it, Bombard your senators and congressman with letters.It only takes a few minutes of your time,I orient mine around the issue of (We do'nt need any more new laws you just need to enforce what's 0n the books)I guess i'll be finding how big a lying BAS---D Balog. really is , as i kept every reply his office sent me when he was running for office( Gun Control Issues)It's time people quit voting for there social security checks and vote for there CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS
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