I found a very interesting article about us.

[Bobcat]

.........now that video is a hoot!

[silvertip-co]

Others hate us. Face it. But I really dont care. As far as I am concerned they can go to h.ll along with the Klintons and Brittany. This is a great site with great people posting great fotos and long range hunts and technical 'stuff'. In fact of the 5 sites I vist daily I come here first, always.

As an example I posted a link to goodgroupers 946yrd elk kill on one of my other two favorite hunting site forums. I have actually met many of my efriends from this one particular site and attended elk camp with many of them on more than one occasion. Some of them call me irregularly to talk hunting on the fone.

Nevertheless they were "highly" offended that I would post what I thought was totally amazing hunting effort on goodgroupers part. Given that most of the good guys there are anally retentive bowhunters, bowhunting isnt the only topic of discussion on that particular Christian board. I almost got booted from that site for simply expanding the topic of discussion while staying away from the kids...colds...cookies...praise the lord types of post. In fact when I posted the link to the 946 kill I specifically said that I was only trying to show what I thought was an amazing effort without soliciting comments or fomenting discussion and dissent. These guys went ballistic and the negativity about us LRH guys continued for 5 pages of unChristian posts. They just believe we are NOT hunters.

So, LOL, I wont do THAT again. I keep my LRH interest here and dont invite others who have not first expressed an interest in LRH to me. That should help us out as a group and allow some reasonable expansion of Len's fine site without attracting disinterested pot stirrers, PETA peeple, and lonely women lookin for a man(ie: Huntingnet.com).

Keep up the great interesting stuff guys. I love this place.

[diderr]

Originally Posted by silvertip-co

Others hate us. Face it. But I really dont care. As far as I am concerned they can go to h.ll along with the Klintons and Brittany. This is a great site with great people posting great fotos and long range hunts and technical 'stuff'. In fact of the 5 sites I vist daily I come here first, always.

As an example I posted a link to goodgroupers 946yrd elk kill on one of my other two favorite hunting site forums. I have actually met many of my efriends from this one particular site and attended elk camp with many of them on more than one occasion. Some of them call me irregularly to talk hunting on the fone.

Nevertheless they were "highly" offended that I would post what I thought was totally amazing hunting effort on goodgroupers part. Given that most of the good guys there are anally retentive bowhunters, bowhunting isnt the only topic of discussion on that particular Christian board. I almost got booted from that site for simply expanding the topic of discussion while staying away from the kids...colds...cookies...praise the lord types of post. In fact when I posted the link to the 946 kill I specifically said that I was only trying to show what I thought was an amazing effort without soliciting comments or fomenting discussion and dissent. These guys went ballistic and the negativity about us long range hunting guys continued for 5 pages of unChristian posts. They just believe we are NOT hunters.

So, LOL, I wont do THAT again. I keep my long range hunting interest here and dont invite others who have not first expressed an interest in long range hunting to me. That should help us out as a group and allow some reasonable expansion of Len's fine site without attracting disinterested pot stirrers, PETA peeple, and lonely women lookin for a man(ie: Huntingnet.com).

Keep up the great interesting stuff guys. I love this place.

+1, well put.

[phorwath]

While reading the article I was initially offended to find the author describe my methods of hunting as 'shooting', and not 'hunting'. I initially disagreed and still disagree with that characterization.

But by the time I finished the article, I concluded that the author is not anti-long rang hunting. I think his definitions of hunting and shooting have simply been refined in his mind to mean something different to him than what they mean to me, or most other long range hunters.

All firearm and archery hunting requires shooting, and I can't bring myself to separate the two with any refinement of definitions of 'hunting' versus 'shooting' while hunting.

When I set up for long range hunting, I still use the author's 'hunting' skills to select locations, times, and methods that increase the opportunities for killing the prey I'm hunting. Wind direction, the habits of the prey, and other 'hunting' skills are actively employed to maximize the opportunity for a shot. Where I differ with the author is that if I hunt effectively and efficiently, I'm then more likely to reach the 'shooting' stage of 'hunting'. Shooting is what successful hunting leads to and is innate to the hunt... In my mind, 'shooting' while hunting is 'hunting'.

This author attempts to separate 'shooting' at prey from 'hunting' and I just disagree with this use and characterization of the two terms.

[Jimm]

Originally Posted by Len Backus

I thought it was a mild and well written article. I was not insulted by "his" definition of "hunting". He writes about enjoying the same technical aspects of longer-than-average shots on big game.

Sometimes I think our fraternity is a little too sensitive about someone else's definitions.

Yup !