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Old 09-25-2005, 10:25 PM
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Hunting caliber for girlfriend

Hi all, I'm new to the forum and looking for some opinions on what caliber to have my girlfriends rifle built. She is a small person, about 5' 2" and 115 pounds, so weight and recoil are a big issue. At the moment I'm thinking of having it built in a 6.5 x 55 Swede. Any Suggestions?

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Old 09-25-2005, 10:43 PM
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Re: Hunting caliber for girlfriend

Justin,

For my customers that come in with similiar projects they want to do I recommend several different choices in caliber.

Of course we need to know what type of game you will be hunting but for now I will assume deer mainly.

For this type of game anything in the 6mm range and up will work. For the 6mm rounds I would recommend a 243 or larger for use on deer size game as your deer as with the deer in Montana can get quite large so I consider this a good minimum caliber and cartridge size.

From there you get into the 25 and 6.5 calibers which I feel are about perfect choices for deer size game. The cartridge really depends on personal preference.

In the 25 cals, the standard 25-06 is very hard to beat but it is offered mainly in full size rifles.

Rounds such as the 260 and 7mm-08 can be found in very light rifles but remember the lighter you go, even with these smaller rounds, the more they will kick. I built an Ultralight in 260 Rem for a customer last spring which was one of the liveliest rifles I have shot off a bench, not severe recoil but just alot of rifle jump when she went off.

Do not get caught up in the ultralight craze, get a little rifle weight as that will make the rifle easier to keep steady and shoot accurately.

The Swede is a great chambering for sure but the 260 Rem will basically match it ballistically. Both are great rounds.

You said you were going to build the rifle, are you open to wildcats? If so you open yourself up to a much wider selection of rounds in this range. All the wildcats based on the 284 win case make impressive deer rifles with low recoil. The 25-284 may be my personal favorite but the 6mm-284 and 6.5-284 are also very good rounds that can be built into lighter weight rifles.

It really depends on what she will be hunting, how she will be hunting and if you want a standard chambering or a wildcat offering.

Good Shooting!!

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Old 09-25-2005, 11:05 PM
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Re: Hunting caliber for girlfriend

Ah yes, i'm sorry that i forgot to mention that. Being the average North Dakota hunter, deer are at the top of the list, but we are definately looking for something diverse. She has expressed interest in wanting to go on an elk hunt in the not too distant future. The other parameters are a wood stock, stainless action and barrel, and a 3-point safety. The reason I said build is that 1.) we haven't been able to find anything to fit her. The ruger compact has been the closest, but still a hair too long, and definately too heavy according to her. And 2.) I haven't been happy with the accuracy out of any of our factory rifles.
To answer your other question, I myself am not opposed to a wildcat caliber, as I will be more than likely reloading for whatever her rifle gets chamber in anyway.
Thanks

Justin
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Old 09-26-2005, 12:16 AM
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Re: Hunting caliber for girlfriend

Ask kirby about his Allen magnums!
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Old 09-26-2005, 01:38 AM
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Re: Hunting caliber for girlfriend

I cannot but agree with Fiftydriver.

I'm partial to the 6,5x55 as local supply is very good and quality compononts are cheap and plentiful. Put a 6,5mm out at 2700fps and more and it's a good killer. Have shot some 50+ deer with my rifle now, no complaints. Do a search on my nick, I'll prolly have posted more on this caliber.
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Old 09-26-2005, 09:16 AM
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Re: Hunting caliber for girlfriend

There are a million choices available.

My first thought is either a 250 Ackley or a 257 Roberts, but the requirements are not that exclusive, so anything from 243 to 308 comes into play.

The real stumbling point is that elk hunt in the future. I'd look at the 7X57 class of chamberings, maybe a 284Winchester, if you are wanting to keep her in a short action? That's where you can get selective in a 308 with 125 grain bullets for her deer hunting and come up with a 165 grain load for that elk hunt.

Yes, a million possibilities, but some are better than others.

Good hunting. LB
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Old 09-26-2005, 11:41 AM
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Justin,

The problem going very small and light in a rifle is not nessesarily that the rifle will not be accurate but instead, the lighter and shorter the rifles get, generally the more difficult they are to shoot accurately.

Think of it as a comparision between driving a Lincoln Town care on the freeway and a 600 HP Camero SS on the quartermile drag strip.

The big car is easy to drive, practically drives itself. The smaller Camero is a handful to drive and best suited for experts to get the most out of the car.

Same with a rifle. Its better to add a bit of rifle weight and increase the ease in shooting for your girlfriend then get her something that feels like its made of light weight plastic.

Obviously we need to be sensible here. I have yet to find a lady that could not handle an appropriately dimensioned rifle in the 7 3/4 to 8 1/4 lb range.

The key is stock fit and selecting a barrel that will not make the rifle exceptionally long. What makes a rifle feel much heavier then it is is when it has an OAL that is longer then the shooter is tall!!

I would personally do this, if your serious about including elk in your future plans, I would lean toward the 7mm-08 or similiar rounds. The 120-140 gr tipped bullets on the market today in the 7mm-08 are GREAT deer loads. You can then switch up to a bonded core 140-160 gr bullet for the heavier elk. You will not be able to reach out 500 yards and flatten a bull elk but for shots under 400 yards(I would prefer under 300 yards on bulls) with a well placed bullet the little 7mm-08 will easily kill any elk on the planet.

Also it is able to be housed in short action rifles which I would recommend the Rem 700 SA if you are going to build. They are as strong as they come. Most accurate factory receiver to build on and also very light weight. Combine that with a stock with a 12.5" Length of pull and a 22-24" barrel in the #3 to #5 contour and you would be ready to roll with a very quality, compact and relatively light rifle.

Top it off with a light weight scope and your ready for anything you could ever want to hunt.

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