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Old 12-05-2009, 11:15 AM
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Re: High Shoulder Hits, be ready to finish the job....

Congrats Kirby on a nice buck and great write-up!

I'm really glad he didn't have any more "juice" after your excellent shot (it's hard to really know sometimes...) - it would have been a very different story. While those antlers may not be proper "trophy-sized" in measurement, they look big enough to make some proper holes in YOU!
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Old 12-05-2009, 11:43 AM
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Re: High Shoulder Hits, be ready to finish the job....

Good write up Kirby,
Some deer are just plain tough and hard to kill.

A mate of mine shot a Sambar stag through the shoulder once, walked up to it and took some photo's and then walked out to get the truck. When he got back it was gone. Never to be seen again.

Another time I shot a Red Stag at close range with a .30-06. I walked up to it and took some photo's then pulled out my knife and started to cape out the head skin.
When the knife went it half an inch, the stag woke up and stood up. Problem was I was standing between its antlers when it stood up.

The thing threw me about like a rag doll on top of its head. I had to hang on and hope for the best. Eventually I managed to stick my knife where it would do the most good and the thing died.

Gave me something to think about.
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Old 12-05-2009, 12:15 PM
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Re: High Shoulder Hits, be ready to finish the job....

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Good write up Kirby,
Some deer are just plain tough and hard to kill.

A mate of mine shot a Sambar stag through the shoulder once, walked up to it and took some photo's and then walked out to get the truck. When he got back it was gone. Never to be seen again.

Another time I shot a Red Stag at close range with a .30-06. I walked up to it and took some photo's then pulled out my knife and started to cape out the head skin.
When the knife went it half an inch, the stag woke up and stood up. Problem was I was standing between its antlers when it stood up.

The thing threw me about like a rag doll on top of its head. I had to hang on and hope for the best. Eventually I managed to stick my knife where it would do the most good and the thing died.

Gave me something to think about.

Sounds like you made it your 8 seconds
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Old 12-05-2009, 02:21 PM
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Re: High Shoulder Hits, be ready to finish the job....

I had almost that exact setup last year with the opposite result. Made the exact shot you describe but with a muzzleloader from 90 yards, but the doe dropped dead as a doornail with only two modest holes through the lungs (don't use bonded Shockwaves on deer, I learned, they don't open) and didn't touch the spine. Yet apparently close enough to the CNS to permanently short-circuit her.

Like you I aim for the center to give me the most room for error but occasionally hit high. All I can think is that a high lung hit is less likely to fully deflate the lungs (I've had worse luck with them), and obviously with the holes at the very top the blood is going to stay inside and not bleed externally as well. Glad you were able/dedicated enough to get him and not let the 'yotes get him.

It is unfortunate to hear about the poachers/trespassers this year. I hunted MT this year and it just wasn't that hard to get a public land/BLM map and do it the right way. In fact when a local landowner pulled up (probably saw our out-of-state plates) and saw us pouring over our maps trying to find any more legal land that might hold an antelope herd (they were all on private eating the winter wheat), his suspicion turned to assistance and he gave us permission on 2000+ acres and we both tagged out within hours.
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Old 12-05-2009, 04:40 PM
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Re: High Shoulder Hits, be ready to finish the job....

Fiftydriver,
I'm a flatlander hunting in South Carolina. I can't believe that if a wounded animal crosses a boundry line that you can't retrieve your animal. That's a crazy law. Do the game wardens enforce that law or the land owners? Didn't mean to change the topic. Nice buck by the way!!
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Old 12-05-2009, 05:12 PM
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Re: High Shoulder Hits, be ready to finish the job....

Sendero7,

I know the other land owner and if things had required it I could have certainly went and talked to the landowner and he would let me retrieve the buck but I just did not want that added hassle.

There are some land owners around that would give you serious hell. If you can prove the deer was fatelly wounded on legal fround and crossed over to other private property, you can get a FWP escort to take you to get the animal but many times the land owner, if they want, can delay things long enough that your animal will not be any good when you get it or hit very hard by coyotes.

There are very few FWP officers available and Montana is a pretty decent size state!!!

IF the land owner refuses to let the FWP onto their property, then the FWP would have to get into legal action to make it happen. Luckily, I know most of the land owners around the property we hunt on and that would not be a problem. Best situation however, put the animal down on legal ground or let it go. I have let several really big whitetails and some mule deer much larger then the one I killed walk because they were right on a property line.
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Re: High Shoulder Hits, be ready to finish the job....

The bullet placement was just too high,shoot center shoulder and you wont have this problem again.Yheeee....I wouldnt be talkin about shootin a deer after dark regardless of it being wounded earlier,the F&G doesnt have much of a sense of humor when it comes to after dark "hunting".
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