Help me combat fliers...

m249 · #1 07-28-2009, 01:26 PM

I was wondering if anyone out there has any good ways to help to eliminate fliers. I can get really good groups and distance but every once in awhile I get a flyer and ruins the group.

I'm just looking for any tip that you have from the reloading process to tips when shooting to help get rid of them for good anything will be helpful.

AJ Peacock · #2 07-28-2009, 03:06 PM

Are your fliers vertical, horizontal or both? Wind? What distance are you shooting your groups at? Are you using bi-pods or bags? Are you shooting your groups over a chrony? How is your velocity spread?

Give us a bunch of info and it will be easier to throw out ideas.

AJ

deerkiller · #3 07-28-2009, 04:43 PM

Mark the piece of brass a flier came from.
If it throws a flier next time, get rid of it.

dk

m249 · #4 07-28-2009, 05:08 PM

I'll have to start doing that with my brass, didn't even think of that. My fliers are mostly vertical. I've been testing a load at 200 and 300 yards was going to try out to 500 next weekend and see what happens. I haven't been able to shoot over a chrony because of a miss-hap that left one of my sensors with a nice .223 hole through it.

My load is 79.5 grains of H1000 with a berger 190 vld(.300 WIN MAG), shooting is done off a concrete bench. I have shot off a bipod and off sand bags, both with a rear bag, with same results.

If I do my job and have no fliers, I can shoot on average .25 to .5 moa groups. With fliers the groups are 1 moa and over.

AJ Peacock · #5 07-28-2009, 05:15 PM

Vertical can easily be velocity differences. I've had problems with bags, because I don't have great form on them. I end up creeping forward or backward , so the location the stock rests upon moves from shot to shot; on my rifles, this causes vertical.

My best luck has been to use bipods with a couple thickness's of carpet between them and the bench.

AJ

m249 · #6 07-28-2009, 05:27 PM

AJ, I'll give it a try, but I have to ask what exacly does the carpet do between the bi-pod and the bench?
Should I try shooting some groups from the prone position and see if I still get fliers?

AJ Peacock · #7 07-28-2009, 05:29 PM

It absorbs some of the shock of the recoil that 'bounces' the rifle. Shooting off of carpet with bi-pods makes my rifles behave almost exactly like shooting off dirt when prone.

Here is a great article on shooting with bipods.

http://www.6mmbr.com/TacticalFroggyA1.html

AJ