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Help the Marine Corps decide on a new caliber for their sniper rifles

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Unread 12-10-2007, 05:21 PM
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308 nots going anywhere. As in any war there will be specialty weapons for long range ie 50, 338, 300 mags. It don't see a total replacement SWS happening any time soon. As far as the weight of the M40s and M-24 I agree that it's to GD heavy.

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We've been talking about these a little in another thread.

8.9 pounds with scope, sling, etc.? Can it really be that light?

Add a couple pounds for a a Tripod, and you still are under 12 pounds carry weight loaded!

Anyone shot a .338 Lapua that was this light?

Seems like a sore shoulder waiting to happen!

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We've been talking about these a little in another thread.

8.9 pounds with scope, sling, etc.? Can it really be that light?

Add a couple pounds for a a Tripod, and you still are under 12 pounds carry weight loaded!

Anyone shot a .338 Lapua that was this light?

Seems like a sore shoulder waiting to happen!

Bill
Possible with a well designed brake on it.

My 16.5lb'er has a recoil about of a little less than an FN SLR.
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No brake on that gun, although a suppressor is an option.

Without the suppressor it is 8.2 pounds!!

OUCH!
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No brake on that gun, although a suppressor is an option.

Without the suppressor it is 8.2 pounds!!

OUCH!
Actually it does. It's an OPS Inc, 12th model.

M24A3 SWS CHARACTERISTICS
CharacteristicM24A3 AICSM24A3 H&S
Length-Base rifle 1263.65mm (49.75")1257.3mm (49.50") Length-Ops Inc equipped 1566.85mm (57.75") 1460.5mm (57.50") Barrel 416R Stainless Steel 416R Stainless Steel Barrel Twist 1/254mm (1/10")
Rifling 5 radial land groves
1/254mm (1/10")
Rifling 5 radial land groves
Barrel length 736.6mm (29") 736.6mm (29") Barrel Finish Black Powder Coat Black Powder Coat Trigger M24 M24 Trigger Pull 1.58Kg (3.5lbs) to 2.26Kg (5lbs)1.58Kg (3.5lbs) to 2.26Kg (5lbs) Butt plate adjustment 50.8mm (2") 50.8mm (2") Cheek piece adjustment 50.8mm (2") 50.8mm (2") Stock AICS, Aluminum bedding block, plastic side panels H&S PST 26, Synthetic Aramid Fiber Stock Color Green Black Weight with Sling and Scope-Unloaded 3.49Kg (7.7lbs) 3.17Kg (7lbs) Weight with Sling and Scope-Loaded 3.71Kg (8.2lbs) 3.26Kg (7.2lbs) Weight with Sling, Scope, Suppressor-Unloaded 3.81Kg (8.4lbs) 3.62Kg (8lbs) Weight with Sling, Scope, Suppressor-Loaded 4.03Kg (8.9lbs) 3.71Kg (8.2lbs) Caliber .338 Lapua Magnum .338 Lapua Magnum Operation Bolt Action Bolt Action Muzzle Brake Ops Inc 12th Model Ops Inc 12th Model Suppressor Ops Inc 12th Model Ops Inc 12th Model Suppressor length 317.5mm (12.5") 317.5mm (12.5") Suppressor weight 0.36Kg (0.8lb) 0.39Kg (0.8lb) Suppressor shift in point of impact Not to exceed 38.1mm (1.5) MOA Not to exceed 38.1mm (1.5) MOA Magazine Capacity 5rd Detachable box magazine 5rd Detachable box magazine Magazines provided 2ea 2ea Effective Range - Day Scope 1500 Meters 1500 Meters Effective Range - Night Scope
(Weather & Night Vision dependant)
500+ Meters500+ Meters
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Unread 12-13-2007, 08:29 AM
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My vote goes to the 338LM aswell. Looks like Remington may have them in mind or atleast partly with their new 700P chmabered in the LM. Should meet the weight limit you mentioned and without going full custom, hard to beat the 700 action!
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New Sniper Rifle?

Hmmmm....that question is almost a 'no-brainer'! I've worked with two of these rifles this past year quite extensively....all the way back to 1500 yards and each would plant a round in your 'cover' from that range without too much of a problem! Caliber is .338 Lapua Mag and for an 'out of the box' rifle....they're the best I've ever had the occasion to put to my shoulder! With the experience I have shooting the .308 Winchester round in Palma competition for many years.....I have doubts that the .308 is the problem; rather the training of young 'ground-pounders'!!

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