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Old 02-06-2011, 01:30 PM
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Help with Bergers!!!!

Has anyone else had this exerience with Bergers. I have a 243 that will shoot 95gr nosler ballistic tips sub .5moa all day long with vit n160 powder. I have used the same charge of n160 with 95 gr VLD hunting bullets and cannot get them to shoot at all. I saw the sticky on here from Berger about loading different seating depths. I went today in good conditions with 6 loads each of .005 off the rifling, .040 off, .080 off, and .120 off. My best 3 shot group at 100yds was about 12inches. That's right 12INCHES!! Most were 15inches to 2feet. Has anyone experienced this. I really wanted to shoot these bullets but I am at a loss for what to do.
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Old 02-06-2011, 01:41 PM
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Re: Help with Bergers!!!!

Did you read this. Optimizing Precision And Accuracy From VLD Bullets

It out lines what to do and its only ment to get you close but some times you get lucky there are two diffrent sets of seating depths for the test depending on which bullet your shooting(target or hunting).
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Old 02-06-2011, 01:49 PM
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Re: Help with Bergers!!!!

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Did you read this. Optimizing Precision And Accuracy From VLD Bullets

It out lines what to do and its only ment to get you close but some times you get lucky there are two diffrent sets of seating depths for the test depending on which bullet your shooting(target or hunting).

I did read this which is why I did the test with all the different bullet jumps.
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Old 02-06-2011, 01:57 PM
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Re: Help with Bergers!!!!

wow, id like to say that because of the extra length of the vld your not stabilizing it but even if it was keyholing it shouldnt be 12" If it was me id try like a 90 or 87gr. berger and see
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Old 02-06-2011, 02:05 PM
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Re: Help with Bergers!!!!

Did you do a ladder test first find the best charge and then work the setting depths? Thats what I do if the load is real hot after the ladder test I may back the charge off a grain or two and start the seating depth test.

I had this issue with my 300 win mag not as bad but pretty bad. I was getting 2" groups at 200 yards. I had done the ladder and then played with some primers and switched to nosler brass. After I did all this I did Erics test and that put me at one 308 hole at 200 yards.

Maybe try another bullet weight, powder or primer? Get is as close as you can before the seating test. I'm sure someone else will have another sugestion for you too.
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Old 02-06-2011, 02:12 PM
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Re: Help with Bergers!!!!

Thanks for the responses guys. I didn't try different powders and charges because that powder and charge that I used shoots so good with the nosler ballistic tips. If it shoots really good with one bullet, I thought it would be ok with another.
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Old 02-06-2011, 02:25 PM
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Re: Help with Bergers!!!!

I would shoot the ballistic tips again and make sure they still shoot good. If they do you know its not your scope or mount. If they are that bad I would guess the only thing you could change with the load is the bullet cause nothing is going to shrink that group enough.
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