are they credible long range hunters? I know they just use hold over dots, and sporter rifles.
Yep. I know all about them. Wish I didn't. I hate to slam another business but these guys need to be fingered out in the interest of people trying to learn properly.
Shall I go over the list of "what not to do's"?
Ballistic reticles instead of dialing MOA
Weatherby actions instead of ANYTHING ELSE!
Factory ammunition instead of hand tuned ammo.
30-378 instead of ANYTHING ELSE!
Practicing on 52" diamond gongs instead of life size gongs representative of real big game dimensions
Talley rings instead of something that works.
Factory bedding jobs (or lack of bedding I should say) instead of bedding done right.
Enough? Not quite. I should also mention their school is triple the price of my school or Carlock's with less than half the information.
Now you get the idea of what you can expect.
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Yep. I know all about them. Wish I didn't. I hate to slam another business but these guys need to be fingered out in the interest of people trying to learn properly.
Shall I go over the list of "what not to do's"?
Ballistic reticles instead of dialing MOA
Weatherby actions instead of ANYTHING ELSE!
Factory ammunition instead of hand tuned ammo.
30-378 instead of ANYTHING ELSE!
Practicing on 52" diamond gongs instead of life size gongs representative of real big game dimensions
Talley rings instead of something that works.
Factory bedding jobs (or lack of bedding I should say) instead of bedding done right.
Enough? Not quite. I should also mention their school is triple t.he price of my school or Carlock's with less than half the information.
Now you get the idea of what you can expect.
They seem to kill game instantly, I wonder how many shots they miss before they get a kill. You aim for air you hit air
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Thompson Long Range. They have a long range shooting school (in Utah i believe) that they advertise in hunting mags. They've been around for a while. I called them a couple years ago when i first saw the ad, they shoot .30-378's accumarks with a varmint style stock and used the Premier Reticle dots when i talked to him. I don't know if they still use them after the whole fallout with Leupold. He sent me a 12 minute DVD back then that was very impressive - several kill shots over the 800 yard mark. I can't for the life of me remeber what bullet they were using although he told me. They don't do as much as the Best of the West guys as far as smithing or anything to my knowledge, they just have a system they like and seem pretty successful with it. Their school consists of you taking a new accumark out of the box, install a scope, go over some basic reloading and ballistics, and hit the range. 2 day deal. I didn't like that fact that the scope was already set-up and you basically started with their "pet load" and tinkered with it to get the velocity to match the dots. Seemed to me that finding what the gun liked first and then doing your dots was a better way to go, but just my opinion. This was all when i spoke with him a couple years back so it may be different now. Real nice guy, seemed knowledgeable. I think they have a full length video out now.
I talked to them within the last 2 mos. and was told that they do use off the shelf Weatherbys, but that they handload for each rifle using 180g Nosler Accubonds and Retumbo powder...scopes are zeroed at 300 yards ( according to the video) with 3 dots below for 4,5,600 yds...then there is a line for 700 and 3 dots more which are smaller and spaced for 8,9 1000 yds...I personally enjoyed the video...can't comment much further....The guy on the phone seemed very cordial to me as well....30-338
are these the guys that advertise in Huntin Fool magazine????
the advertisment i am talking about shows a bunch of guys standing next to pretty much giant diamond shaped gongs with groups printed on them.
I dont know much about them so i wont really comment but the advertisment didnt really blow my skirt up
GG, you gave me a good idea for a topic i am gonna start, i will put it in this catagory so add to it if you got time.
steve
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