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Old 11-30-2010, 10:16 AM
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Thanks for all the replies. what a great website and your thoughts are all confirmations on what i've learned over the last week or so. I must admit i've been on other sites for cars etc and was made to feel unwelcome for asking what likely is a less than articulate question.

i'm likely to go with the remington 700 sps at .308 and modify as the budget will allow.

now what do you recommend for starting loads for the gun? for plinking and then for longer range shooting.
So did you decide to go with the standard SPS or the varmint/bull bbl model? Have you seen the Varmint SF? A buddy of mine has one and the fluting makes for some weight savings and a nicer balance.

While I hate unsolicited advice as much as the next guy....you should really consider .243. It's a blast to shoot, less recoil, lots of bullet choices (you can stabilize the 105 gr Amax with he factory twist) and 6mm bullets generally exhibit less drop and a better ability to buck the wind then .30 cal bullets out of a .308.

I'm not bad mouthing the .308, it's a great round...but I think .243 would suit your needs better. YMMV.
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Old 11-30-2010, 10:38 AM
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Re: Gun choice

I am seeking advice and appreciate your thoughts. Will a .243 work as well as the .308 when hunting?

I'm sure there are pros and cons-

Is there any appreciable difference in the costs of rounds?

What about the recoil ? I'm used to shooting a 12 gauge while dove hunting if that is a reasonable basis for comparison-

Thanks again for your thoughts-
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Old 11-30-2010, 12:13 PM
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Re: Gun choice

There are always pro's and cons when comparing cartridges, but at the distances you are hunting at I feel .308 does not offer much over .243 other then bullet weights, but IMHO that is a non-issue on think skinned animals like deer. I have shot large hos with a .243 and also witnessed first hand a young man drop an Oryx with one shot during a youth Oryx hunt (shot placement is key).

Yes, 243 is an excellent cartridge for whitetails, muleys, antelope and is downright devastating on coyotes. I wouldn't hunt elk with it, but thee aren't too many of them running around KY!

243 ammo is a buck or 2 a box cheaper (more for premium) then 308 and can always be found in any "out of the way mom and pop shop" should you forget your ammo at home. My local walmart always has way more 243 ammo then 308.

My M700 LSS shoots .25 MOA @100 yds with plain old Rem factory ammo 100 gr SP core lokts!

Recoil of the 243 is a bit less too...


Cartridge (Wb@MV) Rifle Weight Recoil energy Recoil velocity
243 Win. (75 at 3400) 8.5 7.2 7.4
.243 Win. (95 at 3100) 7.25 11.0 9.9
.243 Win. (100 at 2960) 7.5 8.8 8.7

.308 Win. (150 at 2800) 7.5 15.8 11.7
.308 Win. (165 at 2700) 7.5 18.1 12.5
.308 Win. (180 at 2610) 8.0 17.5 11.9

recoil table link

Hope that helps! Also, if you get a .243 and you decide you would rather have a .308 you can always find M700 take-off barrels cheap on gunbroker....
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Old 12-01-2010, 03:35 PM
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Re: Gun choice

Thanksgiving weekend I shot a doe at 340 yrds with a .243 and she went about 20yrds max. Chest cavity was jello. Fun to hear the rifle go off, then she her jump, then hear it go thump, then she her flop over.
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Old 12-01-2010, 03:39 PM
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Thanksgiving weekend I shot a doe at 340 yrds with a .243 and she went about 20yrds max. Chest cavity was jello. Fun to hear the rifle go off, then she her jump, then hear it go thump, then she her flop over.
Congrats! Could you share your recipe (bullet, powder and charge)?
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Old 12-01-2010, 06:10 PM
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Re: Gun choice

I was shooting my father-in-law old lever action savage with a straight 4x scope. I know they were reloads 100gn soft point, h4350 40gn.

I pretty sure I have killed more dear with that savage than any other gun. Always seems I go hunting(at the ranch) and either have my bow or didn't bring my own gun so end up using his.
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Old 12-02-2010, 04:29 PM
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Re: Gun choice

I went on a spree and decdied to buy 2 guns. got a .243 and .308.

the 243 is "really" for my son. it is a remington 700 adl model. what is the best amo to use for deer hunting that i can buy commercially? what is good to site in the gun? is that a bad question? we will be doing some plinking and target shooting and I want to get the gun ready for youth season for him.

with the .308 again what is a good brand and receipt for load to hunt deer with. what would be a good load to shoot long range with- 400-600 yards? i dont have a reloader yet and will have to buy at gun shop or over internet.

thanks again for all your help!!
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