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Old 11-28-2010, 09:25 PM
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Gun choice

i'm new and need some direction. i and my son are avid shooters and I'm looking to buy/modify a rifle to shoot targets and hunt with.

I'm looking to go with either a Remington 700 VTR or sps/tactical heavy barrel 26".

can someone help me out here? i'm torn and maybe am not considering some other factors.

I'm not going to shoot competition, but would like the ability to shoot 450 yards or possibly farther on targets. when hunting i'm guessing the longest shot for deer in central ky will be around 200 to 250.

I really appreicate all your thoughts---
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Old 11-28-2010, 11:04 PM
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Re: Gun choice

My Tikka Lite .270WSM shots great and will take anything you want to shoot. Might not be the best for target shooting unless you reload. Now my Savage VLP .243 you can shoot all day and not get tired. I did drop a doe at 340 yards and she went about 20yrds and droped, I love the .243. My .270WSM is my elk rifle, and .243 for target/varmint/deer/antelope rifle.

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Old 11-29-2010, 07:27 AM
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Re: Gun choice

I would look at a Remington 700 SPS Varmint in .308 Win. This is a great starter rifle and can be updated as you go along and begin pushing the envelope so to speak. It can easily handle deer at 500 yds once you learn to shoot it. Little recoil and the price is right. You can up grade with triggers and stocks and scopes as you go and end up with a very very nice shooting rig to shoot either targets or deer.
Savage makes some similar rifles and will shoot every bit as good. Never had a problem with either rifle when it came to accuracy.
The .308 Win is a cartridge that can be bought over the counter and shoot very well or reloaded and shoot even better. Great for target practice.
I have a number of long range rifles but when I just want to have fun my old .308 comes out.
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Old 11-29-2010, 09:19 AM
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Re: Gun choice

I am getting a starter setup going to. The reviews on the VTR haven't been fantastic. I have been looking at the following setups

700 sps var 308
700 pss (police) 308
Winchester Stealth 308
Savage 10fp 308

the sps is the cheapest of the group and has less features (ie no bedding, barrel is not floated etc) BUT with the money that you save you can get a nice replacement stock or afford you a little nice scope.
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Old 11-29-2010, 10:23 AM
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Re: Gun choice

The rifle you want is the Remington SPS Varmint in .243 (also available in 308). I've seen them sell for as little as $489 on gunbroker or gunsamerica. The stock sucks, but you can toss it and get a B&C Medalist A2 for about $225. Add in the cost of a trigger job, some good scope mounts and decent glass and you have a shooter on your hands.
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Old 11-29-2010, 10:19 PM
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Re: Gun choice

Thanks for all the replies. what a great website and your thoughts are all confirmations on what i've learned over the last week or so. I must admit i've been on other sites for cars etc and was made to feel unwelcome for asking what likely is a less than articulate question.

i'm likely to go with the remington 700 sps at .308 and modify as the budget will allow.

now what do you recommend for starting loads for the gun? for plinking and then for longer range shooting.
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Old 11-30-2010, 08:12 AM
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Re: Gun choice

Varget powder, 175 SMK bullet, CCI Primer and I buy LC Military Brass by the 100's and with some time in brass prep and load prep I'm getting under 1/4" groups with mine depending on how much coffee I had that day. Oh and one more thing. I found that annealing was very critical on these loads and I am also using the Lee collet dies and neck sizing only.
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