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Unread 09-13-2013, 07:43 AM
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Re: Got a question we all faced at one time or another.

its a wash really. If it were my decision though I would go for the .280 most likely. It sounds like whitetails at 500 yards is max so you don't need a ton of energy, and the rifle will be light. The .280 will be a fair bit flatter than the 30-06 to 500 yards and will have less recoil. I also don't shoot a bullet that I cant push over 2700 fps in the chambering, so the 06 is stuck with lighter bullets with less b.c.
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    The 30-06AI is nice
    You can load a 110gr for plinking or varmits and up to 220gr or so for big stuff and it has the cool factor of being different and cool look of the AI shoulder angle.

    Better yet, get a 280AI and a 30-06AI BOTH!
    I like the way you think.
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    The 284 is to the STW what a tricycle is to a Ninja.
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    its a wash really. If it were my decision though I would go for the .280 most likely. It sounds like whitetails at 500 yards is max so you don't need a ton of energy, and the rifle will be light. The .280 will be a fair bit flatter than the 30-06 to 500 yards and will have less recoil. I also don't shoot a bullet that I cant push over 2700 fps in the chambering, so the 06 is stuck with lighter bullets with less b.c.
    Yep...This is what I was talking about when I was mentioning flatter trajectory and higher BC from the .280 AI compared to the '06 when using similarly weighted bullets.


    Berger 7mm 168 VLD Hunting
    BC - 0.604

    Berger .30 168 VLD Hunting
    BC - 0.473
    _____

    Berger 7mm 180 VLD Hunting
    BC - 0.659

    Berger .30 185 VLD Hunting
    BC - 0.549


    As you can see, the 7mm VLD's dominate the .30 caliber VLD's in their comparable weight classes.
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    Yep...This is what I was talking about when I was mentioning flatter trajectory and higher BC from the .280 AI compared to the '06 when using similarly weighted bullets.


    Berger 7mm 168 VLD Hunting
    BC - 0.604

    Berger .30 168 VLD Hunting
    BC - 0.473
    _____

    Berger 7mm 180 VLD Hunting
    BC - 0.659

    Berger .30 185 VLD Hunting
    BC - 0.549


    As you can see, the 7mm VLD's dominate the .30 caliber VLD's in their comparable weight classes.
    That's why those that can push it use ...

    210 = .631
    215 = .696
    230 = .719

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    Poster on another forum made a great point for the .280.....

    7mm pill in 168 grn VLD= a BC of .617 Cruising at 2800/2850 is bad news on the receiving end

    As you put it, bad medicin for whitetails and pretty much anything else that crawls on all fours in the state of NC...
    I'm pushing 175 Matrix VLD at 3000 FPS out of my. 270 AI ... not too shabby..
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    That's why those that can push it use ...

    210 = .631
    215 = .696
    230 = .719

    BC means nothing when you don't have the powder to push it to efficiently....And with a .30-06 210+ is getting kinda heavy on the top-end...I couldn't see him getting better than 2650 with the standard .30-06 and 210's.

    If he went with the .30-06 AI, then he could push the big heavies alot more efficiently.

    Granted, my .308 Win is pushing 210's to 2400 fps MV, but I'm also running max load. It's not a recommended load, but it shoots great for me.

    I mean, if he wants smack-down at 500-750 yards, a 24-26" .308 Win with a 5R 11.25" twist heavy barrel shooting 210 VLD's at 2400+ would be about perfect. You get smackdown & efficiency.
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    I'm pushing 175 Matrix VLD at 3000 FPS out of my. 270 AI ... not too shabby..
    Yeah, that's gettin it pretty good right there.

    Never liked the .270 caliber....It was just too close to my 7mm's (.284") for me to justify owning one.
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