Originally Posted by gunpower
Nobody needs a 33 cal. for elk ,moose or deer. I have used a 30/06 for 40 plus years, out to as far as 400 yards with no problems what so ever.
I really can't think why anybody would even go that big, as there is nothing in the States that calls for a caliber that big.
Did you just use the "N" word......as in Need? LOL. I NEED all sortsa guns just ask my wife. I currently need 26,453,435,353,451,856 give or take 2.(Worried about concussion with the 30mm so I may not need it MORE than my retinas).
Yes you NEED way more than an 06 for LR. Yeah you can kill stuff a fair peice with an 06 but a 338 is in a different ballpark. TOF for any round is over .5 at 500 m/l. This means you NEED a 338. Horsepower is nice when you have the wrong wind or animal moves or you pull the shot. For whatever reason you need it the 338 at 2850 and a smk/berger givesw over 2500fpe with a lot larger frontal area and double the weight of a typical 06.A 338 at 1k=30-06 at less than 100 yds even if you totally discount SD and frontal area. Even a 200 gr 06 gives 50% weight to the bigboy. The 338 needs about 4.5 moa of wind at 10 mph the 06 needs 9.7. A 168 bt has 542 FPE about 1/5 of a 338.
When shooting past 4-500 hit them with all the horspower you can and hope you dont need it. I used to kill a lot of depredation deer with a 308 cuz it was cheaper. Then I figured in time checking hits,gas etc and built a 338 that I can kill 20+ from one spot and NEVER have to chase one. Much easier and lower cost for me since I may have to shoot quite a few.
Ask any drag racer and he will tell you this: There is NO REPLACEMENT FOR DISPLACEMENT.
The 338s with high BC and thin jackets have changed a lot of what LR is. A 1000 yds used to be a long shot even with a 300 ultra. The big 300 gr 338s change all that.