germany vs america

[soundwaves]

so what do you guys say. the german guns are better(sauer,merkel.blaser,mauser)?or american guns? I say germany wins hands down. . now dont get angry but answer my question properly like a real hunter german guns or US guns? sorry if l made some of you angry l didnt mean any ofense. l just would like to see some elegance in the US guns ln the future. EUROPE agreese with what l say. ohh by the way US makes great sniper rifles.but we are talking about hunting rifles

[liltank]

Personally I prefer a Savage over anything. They are easy to work on with out a gun smith. They are extremely accurate out of the box. Mausers (only german type rifle I have ever used) make a great action for building with. I would have to say that Sako and Tikka is an excellent choice when it comes to hunting rifles. Winchester has been an American favorite for years. SOOOOO you can see that I am very diverse in my selection. But Savage will always be at the top. 605yards through the head of a groundhog ain't to shabby for any american rifle without modifications.

Tank

[jcoop]

Ok i'll bite. For me elegance has nothing to do with hunting. Accuracy, fit, and function are the things that matter to me. If you hunt in a gentlemens jacket and want to have your ph carry a piece of art for you I can respect that. I just do not see it as a better tool for the job, unless it functions and fits better and is more accurate.

[fireroad]

True, the German's make some fine firearms (particularly handguns), but each country has it's own niche. IMHO, the you just can't beat an american rifle or an Italian shotgun That being said, some US custom companies make some of the finest shotguns and pistols available anywhere. Just depends on what you like.

[MontanaRifleman]

Good thread soundwaves. Being of German descent, I'll throw in I'm with Jcoop on this. Hunting rifles are tools to me.... function is the priority. Give me a SS barreled action set in quality synthetic stock that shoots sub .5 MOA

The rifles you mention are fine rifles but what do they cost? I think if you compare quality German rifles with quality American rifles, you wont find a lot of difference and there are certainly some elegant American rifles to be had. Dakota and Cooper to name a couple.

So both German rifles and American rifles are good when compared on an even playing field.

Cheers,

Mark

[J E Custom]

Originally Posted by soundwaves

so what do you guys say. the german guns are better(sauer,merkel.blaser,mauser)?or american guns? I say germany wins hands down. . now dont get angry but answer my question properly like a real hunter german guns or US guns? sorry if l made some of you angry l didnt mean any ofense. l just would like to see some elegance in the US guns ln the future. EUROPE agreese with what l say. ohh by the way US makes great sniper rifles.but we are talking about hunting rifles

I'll Say this ;

For the money the US makes the best and most accurate !

All you mentioned except the Mauser are very expensive and it is almost impossible
to make them shoot worth a damn.

The old Mauser's make fine rifles if a quality barrel is screwed on them and the others are just
fancy.

If they were better you can bet that this group of long range hunters would own or build
on them for the accuracy needed.

Cost and fancy engraving has nothing to do with accuracy and that is what it takes for this
sport.

Don't get me wrong I like a beautiful rifle and even own a couple but when I get ready to do
some serious shooting I reach for my American made rifles every time.

Nuff said !!!

J E CUSTOM

[jeff 300]

Originally Posted by J E Custom

I'll Say this ;

For the money the US makes the best and most accurate !

All you mentioned except the Mauser are very expensive and it is almost impossible
to make them shoot worth a damn.

The old Mauser's make fine rifles if a quality barrel is screwed on them and the others are just
fancy.

If they were better you can bet that this group of long range hunters would own or build
on them for the accuracy needed.

Cost and fancy engraving has nothing to do with accuracy and that is what it takes for this
sport.

Don't get me wrong I like a beautiful rifle and even own a couple but when I get ready to do
some serious shooting I reach for my American made rifles every time.

Nuff said !!!

J E CUSTOM

I agree 100% give me a remington are a savage any day of the week.