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Old 07-08-2012, 02:14 PM
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Re: Gear Weight Considerations

My take on Savage Factory installed brakes is there are better out there. EGW produces all the Savage brakes and mount rails.

Whichever way you go, keep the weight down as low as possible. Your shoulders will thank you and it makes room for extra granola bars or water......

My go to rifle is a 308 11-111 Savage Lightweight hunter. We also have a 6.5 Creedmore. 308 rounds are available everywhere, 6.5's aren't.
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Old 07-08-2012, 04:00 PM
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Re: Gear Weight Considerations

Look at the 7 SAUM or WSM. you could then use a short action, and possibly build a semi-custom rig off your .308.
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Old 07-08-2012, 04:46 PM
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Re: Gear Weight Considerations

All good ideas on the chamberings. Brakes are good too, and I have one, but if loud concussive noises is an issue - remember you will need a plan to avoid that in the woods. I don't think it's often realistic to put on ear protection when something pops up short-range. That means you'd need to be wearing some electronic ear protection. Ask others here who have hunted with it - I haven't. Some I've heard say they don't like it, because of how it magnifies everything (but that is one brand/type). I use a muzzle brake for practicing then remove it for hunting, after adjusting for any POI change.

A light-weight gun is great. A magnum is great, and with a brake, even light-weight ones can have manageable recoil. I'd rather deal with the extra punch in the shoulder vs. the muzzle break noise when hunting since it shouldn't be many rounds and with the adrenaline you'll likely not feel it much. I guess it depends if you want a one-gun hunting battery primarily for now. If so, a light-weight magnum with a removeable brake is probably good. If you can ever envision having two rifles, you may get a light-weight non-magnum for everything 400 yds and less (which covers a LOT of hunting situations, even out West). Then, you could get a heavier 10-12# magnum chambered and twisted for stuff out to 1000. However, you can try to cover all bases with one gun - it's all a bit of a compromise and personal preference.

As to hunting/scouting etc. there are quite a few decent books on Western Big Game hunting, you can also catch some decent shows on the outdoor channel with western hunting (not all are that useful or educational, but some give you some idea of what to do and expect, especially if it's all new to you).
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Old 07-08-2012, 11:46 PM
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Re: Gear Weight Considerations

Plenty of good information and experience here already, but I'll throw mine in as well. I have always preferred to go light and mobile. I live and hunt in Colorado, where the mountains are steep and elevations high. Every ounce counts. My current big game rifle is a custom 270 WSM. This rifle goes about 8lbs scoped, and has been shooting a lot of groups in the .5 MOA range. I chose this rifle because it is light enough to pack around mile after mile, day after day, and heavy enough to settle and shoot well. The caliber is virtually identical to the 7 rem mag , and doesn't recoil heavy enough to require a brake to tame it. If I have ammo problems I can walk into Wal-Mart and expect to find more.
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Old 07-09-2012, 11:46 AM
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Re: Gear Weight Considerations

As far as muzzle blast/report and to reduce felt recoil how about a suppresser? Check with UT Department of Wildlife and find out if suppressers are legal to hunt with. Here in AZ it will be come this September.
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Old 07-09-2012, 12:05 PM
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Re: Gear Weight Considerations

I haven't found the blast from the brake on my 6.5x284 much of an issue unless I'm shooting prone. Then it is a killer. I keep a set of the cheap Silencio plugs that have a plastic wire attached to each ear plug around my collar if I do go prone. It's fast and works well.

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Old 07-09-2012, 12:08 PM
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Re: Gear Weight Considerations

When I think of a supressor, I think of Mission Impossible.... I'd never have one personally.... not only from the added weight (something we are trying to eliminate in the first place but from publically viewed perspective.

I'm curious however. Because of the design of a supressor I think (from an engineering standpoint) that any supressoe would alter not only the POI but the projectile speed and possibly barrel harmonics.

The very physics of noise supression as it concerns firearms, the supression of noise comes from reversing and absorbing spent gases as they exit the muzzle, much like the muffler on your car...... hence the term 'muffler' for supressor.
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