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Old 12-31-2012, 10:59 PM
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Re: First time at 700yds

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Red or orange or blue paint work great.

FYI one of the prominent members on here told me to change bullets before you change powders. One of the prominent 'smiths on here says the same. A rifle will will like - or not like - a bullet, and the powder is just a way to fine tune your load for accuracy and repeatability. In my limited experience I've found that they are right.

So, think bullet before powder.
I have heard the same about powder swapping vs bullet swapping and have had to change bullets but never had to change powder. I would also second the notion of going to a heavier bullet for fighting wind and therefor suggest for long range you want different bullets anyway.
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Old 12-31-2012, 11:17 PM
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Re: First time at 700yds

Two recommendations for your 300win. Switch to 215 Berger hybrids and H1000 rather than H4831. The difference between the 215 and the 180 will be like night and day.
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Old 01-01-2013, 12:26 PM
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Re: First time at 700yds

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Red or orange or blue paint work great.

FYI one of the prominent members on here told me to change bullets before you change powders. One of the prominent 'smiths on here says the same. A rifle will will like - or not like - a bullet, and the powder is just a way to fine tune your load for accuracy and repeatability. In my limited experience I've found that they are right.

So, think bullet before powder.
Suppose that's where I need to go next, then...thanks for the experience, this is my first (rifle) load workup. The rifle usually shoots 1 to 1 1/4 moa out of both the factory 180s and the 180gr Accubonds in my load testing, with only minor differences in charge weights noted. Maybe this barrel just wants a different weight bullet, but it's really bugging me why I can't get solidly below the 1 moa landmark. The rifle really should be capable and I'm pretty sure I am.

I guess the only reason I started with the 180 grains is 1) I didn't plan on being able to use this (factory) barrel more than 800-1000yds 2) Whitetails, and 3) Hoping the Ballistic tips (same BC and form factor as the ABs) could be used for whitetail, more economic practice and for the long shots for better low-energy expansion. Of course that was dependent upon the two shooting the same .

So, I suppose I should just go for it!! and try the 210VLDs.

In 300wm and 26" barrel, am I better with H1000 or H4831sc? I was leaning on the H1000 with the heavier bullet.

Thanks for the help. No replacement for experience...I'm tryin to get there


Chris
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Old 01-01-2013, 02:27 PM
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Re: First time at 700yds

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Suppose that's where I need to go next, then...thanks for the experience, this is my first (rifle) load workup. The rifle usually shoots 1 to 1 1/4 moa out of both the factory 180s and the 180gr Accubonds in my load testing, with only minor differences in charge weights noted. Maybe this barrel just wants a different weight bullet, but it's really bugging me why I can't get solidly below the 1 moa landmark. The rifle really should be capable and I'm pretty sure I am.

I guess the only reason I started with the 180 grains is 1) I didn't plan on being able to use this (factory) barrel more than 800-1000yds 2) Whitetails, and 3) Hoping the Ballistic tips (same BC and form factor as the ABs) could be used for whitetail, more economic practice and for the long shots for better low-energy expansion. Of course that was dependent upon the two shooting the same .

So, I suppose I should just go for it!! and try the 210VLDs.

In 300wm and 26" barrel, am I better with H1000 or H4831sc? I was leaning on the H1000 with the heavier bullet.

Thanks for the help. No replacement for experience...I'm tryin to get there


Chris
No problem.

I tried every combination I could think of to get Nosler 160 AB's to work in my Dad's 7mm Wby this fall (powder, primer, seating depth), and it never shot that well. I then tried 168 Berger VLDs and didn't do any better. Even my Berger-loving consultant on this site couldn't offer much more since nothing was showing a pattern with either one. Last one was 150gr Barnes TTSX and the rifle is a laser with them, far better than anything that I could do with the other two bullets. The speed is a bit slower than I'd like but I'll take accuracy any day.

So, don't be afraid to try a few different ones.

I'd stick with H-1000.
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