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Old 12-27-2011, 07:50 PM
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anyways, i had planned on building an UL gun for hunting, but after that hunt, I changed my mind. i would rather lug around a 9lb rifle and come back with a full pack, then have a lighter weight gun and come home empty handed.

I do not think i will shoot over 500yds. with most being 3-400yds for a "long" shot. I also am going to start reloading. I am looking to end up with a same hole gun at 100yds, so that those "longer" shots will be easier.

I do not plan on using the gun for bears. mostly goat, sheep, caribou and an elk hunt this fall. i have been looking at the VLD in 185 and 190 gr. or accubonds

I am looking for input. here is what I have sort of come up with for a game plan so far.

300 RUM
A remington 700 action
a pac-nor 28" super match grade stainless barrel (I am unsure of twist, 1 in 11 or 1 in 10" ???)
I was going to have pac-nor do the fitting and chambering, and fluting.
jewell trigger
mpi stock, pillar bedded, alum bedding block , perch bellied with a 378 wthby box.
and a cerrakote job.

I was then thinking of topping it with a a swarovski Z5, 3.5-18 with the ballistic turret.

I want to have a very accurate hunting rifle, ideally 1/2 moa at 400yds.

any input, critique, recommendations welcome.

thanks

You need to reconsider your cartridge choice, why a 300 rum for 500 yards?
Thats a 1000+ yard cartrige, but your going to handicap that cartirge with a 9lb rifle? MPI stock? for light weight? with an alluminum block? you need rigidity pick a rigid stock there are plenty out there that you don't need to add a lb of aluminum to to stiffen up. MPIs don't wear bipods well.

If you set on a 30 cal or bigger because of bears then go with a 300 win mag, or a 300 wsm you can easily drive the 190's to 3000 fps.
If bears were no concern I would do magnum 7mm of one variety. None of these cartridges are under powered for 500 yard hunting. They can be made lighter and with shorter barrels.

Build an ultra mag based cartridge cause you want to kill stuff at 1000 yards.
Build a hunting rifle for hunting.

A mcmillian HTG with a #4 barrel at 23" in 300 wsm would be about perfect for you.

That or like what was said use your 338 win mag, with 225 accubonds, you should be killing stuff way out there.
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Old 12-27-2011, 08:43 PM
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Re: first post.... Rifle build questions

Get you a chunk of metal and set it up out at 600yds or so. Burn some powder in that 338 and have some fun. I bet your current rifle will surprise you. Then, build you another rifle, or two!

Shooting Long Range is about having fun, if 600yds is too easy, back it off a couple. Things start getting interesting at 800yds or so Wind is a bigger issue than rifle, that's for sure.

A 300RUM is an awesome round and will get you to 1000yds easily.

Have fun and keep us posted.

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the scope sounds a bit large for magnification...but then with your specs on the rifle your considering , I bet with some practice and a good rangefinder that gives you the cosine figure for angled shots you will probably be streatching the capable legs of the combo you have built.

I shoot a 24 inch Kimber Montana, 325 WSM with 200 accubonds and 220 powerpoints with a Leupold VX3"L" 4.5-14 , with the Boone and Crocket reticle.


killed my "share" of Elk and Deer, Speedgoats and such , and its very light and is awesome in the mountains of Montana....so I appreciate the lightness, but its good out to 500 yards with that scope and bullet combo. best its done has been 1.5 inch 3 shot group at 458 yards on a calm day...so a VERY light rifle doesnt need to be inaccurate or wimpy.

BUT all that said I think you rig will be great...I just prefer a lighter rifle for all that up and down.(especially as I get older )


Good luck!
You can always dial down with a variable for close range shots but there's nothing you can do to get more magnification than the scope's max when suddenly presented with a shot at long or very long range.

That being the case I'd always lean towards more magnification than I expect to generally need.

That being said out to an absolute max of 400yds even 10x is plenty for something as small as prairie dogs.
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Re: first post.... Rifle build questions

Agreed.
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Old 12-27-2011, 11:06 PM
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Re: first post.... Rifle build questions

1st: Welcome

2nd: A rifle does not have to be heavy to hit game at 500 yards.

3rd: Sounds like you have a great rifle to work with already. If you have cash available for a build, why not use it for some reloading equipment and supplies and get her really dialed in?

The 225 ACCUBOND out of a 338 Win Mag is nothing to sneeze at for a 600 yard gun. The 225 grain ACCUBOND at 338WM velocities will get you to 700 yards in standard air with enough velocity for expansion. Take it to sheep altitude and its good to 850. For elk, even further.

The ballistics of the 338 are very tough to beat. Why go backwards with the .30? Goats are tough as you know. The 338 puts them down quick. Elk are also tough. Again, the 338 puts them down quick. You can easily get either of them down with a 30 cal or 7mm or even smaller for that matter, but since you have a 338 already, why downsize?

If you do decide a 30 cal is on the agenda, why make it a 300 RUM? More recoil and shorter barrel life for what you need out of a 500 yard rifle. The 300 WSM is very tough to beat for a good 30 cal where you would not be hunting to 1K or beyond.

Do you work at the Anchorage Sportsmans Warehouse or the Wasilla location?
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Please just answer one very simple question. Why would anyone shooting long range load a low BC , low SD 168 gr offering in a 300 win???????

My answer to this is. The only reason is to make the 7 RM look good. There is no other reason.

Jeff.
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