Orkan and Broz have both made valid points in this thread. You might have to look for them between the jabs back and forth but they are there. Don't focus on the childish crap and you can find them. Page 34 of a thread that, without the childish crap, would well be under 10 pages.
Neither willing to give the other MUCH credit for the knowledge being passed on. Just pick at the part that they personally don't like or disagree with, or an inconsistent answer.
I have to give credit to both for not backind down from their personal beliefs though.