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Unread 09-12-2008, 05:46 AM
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Just say big thank you to Kirby from Allen precision, Jim from Borden action, Mike from ABS barrel, Tom from Manners stock I have shot my personal best 3 shot group at 0.189 inch yesterday. Before that I have never thought I'm capable of shooting this kind group, or to make my rifle shoot that well. But with all the top components I got (Thanks everyone here) and best gunsmith I could find, plus with the numerous nights glued in front of computer reading the great articles from longrangehunting, and of course numerous orders from Sinclair, somehow I made it ;)

Here is some photo:
The group:

Load is 61 grain of N560, Bergers 168 gr 7mm match VLD, slight jammed into the land, remington 7mm SAUM brass. I didn't measure the speed due to low light, but I guess it's around 3000fps.

The rifle, 7mm SAUM:

Yibai from NZ
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Unread 09-12-2008, 07:27 AM
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Re: Finally

That would be a good 50 yard group for me. LOL...I bet that's a huge confidence builder. Looks like you got what you paid for.

Nice rig ya got by the way.
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Unread 09-12-2008, 10:25 AM
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Re: Finally

Nice shooting and glad she made it across the water in good shape!!!!

Keep us posted when you get her blooded!!! I suspect that will not be much of a problem!!!
Kirby Allen(50)

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Unread 09-12-2008, 04:16 PM
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Re: Finally

Enjoy!! Looks like a shooter. Got to love those Bergers.
I'd Rather Make a Slow Hit Than a Fast Miss!

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Unread 09-13-2008, 05:39 AM
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Re: Finally


What was the reason for building a SAUM instead of a WSM?

Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

Our Lord Jesus said that as it was in the days of Noah and
also as it was in the days of Lot so it shall be in the days...
It's happening again!!! God sent to us His prophet, and His Word
to this generation and we once more are rejecting it as was prophesied!!!

---> As promised, God Sent His Prophet to us!
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Unread 09-13-2008, 08:58 AM
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Re: Finally

Great looking rifle and great shooting. I also got on 6mmbr and printed some of those targets. I really like them.


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Unread 09-13-2008, 05:40 PM
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Re: Finally

Thanks guys. Eaglet, the main reason for going SAUM instead of WSM is better barrel life, it has longer neck than WSM, 0.311 VS 0.244, in theory this gives better barrel life specially around throat area. But I havenít been able to verify this. 2nd reason is the case capacity, Kirby helped us build the custom reamer in which we pushed the projectile(162 AMAX) slightly further out so that give us bit more case capacity. I can load around 63.0 gr of N560 into the Remington case with 168gr Bergers, which is more than enough for me. My main objective is get around 3000 fps using 162 gr AMAX or 168 Bergers, which I could achieve with around 59-61 grain of powder(N160 or N560, the length of barrel is 26 inches). I had encountered the pressure sign at 60 grain of N160 with 162Amax touching the land, but that could also due to the softness of Remington brass.
Iím still working on the load for AMAX, which is our preferred hunting projectile, I havenít tried Bergers on the animal but from my friends they think itís less satisfactory than Amax.
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