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Old 12-06-2010, 07:18 PM
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Edge over kill for KS white tail

Last Friday night about 1/2 hour before dark a nice tall 8 point buck came out at 430 yards to see the 5 does that were feeding . So i dialed up 6.75 and no wind for a change , the buck was facing me head on then quartered slightly to his right so i centered the crosshairs on his left shoulder figured i had 8 inches of room for error and still hit bone and let her fly. Even with the DE brake i lost sight of him from the recoil but heard the impact of the bullet into meat and he was gone . NO blood , hair , nothin when i finally found him about 450 yards away i had hit several inches behind the shoulder and the bullet passed between 2 ribs , so there was a pencil hole goin in and a pencil hole coming out the opposite side in front of back leg about 8 inches . Anyway pencil hole in left lung thru diaphragm and all the smelly stuff and out . I believe you have to hit a bone to make this a truly awesome round and for me thats not an absolute . So for me for now 6.5 is still king for deer . Anybody else have this problem ? Or recommend a lighter more expansive bullet and load for 338 Edge? I gues i left out i am shooting 300 gain begers at 2790fps.

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Old 12-06-2010, 09:54 PM
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Re: Edge over kill for KS white tail

I can't comment on the "Hybrid" .338 Berger bullet.....not sure if they designed them more for target shooting than hunting. I can relate a similar story to yours..when I was using Sierra MatchKing's. We tried some 100 gr. SMK's in my .25-06 for antelope hunting. Our experience was...this was the most accurate bullet in windy conditions that we could find. We used this bullet to take two antelope. Both times....the bullet penciled in and out. Inside the chest cavities of both animals was a bunch of mush along with the blood. I'm thinking the hydrostatic pressure did a number on the internals. My load was pushing the bullets 3300-3350 fps....so you got that very distinct thump when the bullet hit home. Both animals went less than 100 yards before they piled up.

Maybe the new "Hybrid" bullet is designed a bit more for long range target shooting and less as a hunting round??

I was happy to read Berger has moved up into .338 cal. bullets. Too bad your experience wasn't what you had expected. I decided to never use the SMK's when big game hunting. I really want something that will have some expansion to it.

Hope there are other guys out there with experience....with this new bullet. Your experience sounds a lot like mine with SMK's. Hopefully I'm barking up the wrong tree..

Wayne

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Old 12-07-2010, 01:09 AM
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Re: Edge over kill for KS white tail

I shot an antelope at 925yds. and the bullet opened just fine. I think they might be a little on the soft side. My Edge shooting the Bergers has claimed an antelope, a cow elk and a bull elk and the bullets expanded just fine. Not sure what happened in your situation.
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Old 12-07-2010, 02:01 PM
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Re: Edge over kill for KS white tail

It actually shot two antelope you forgot about mine.

It left a BIG hole.
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Old 12-07-2010, 06:11 PM
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Re: Edge over kill for KS white tail

Did all of the bullets hit bone on all of the animals you shot ? Thats the mistake i made i didnt hit any bone. I am pretty sure it would have looked like a grenade went off in there if i had but that wasnt the case. Maybe i just had a freak deal happen too . Thanks for input like to hear more good or bad stories.
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Old 12-08-2010, 09:37 AM
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Re: Edge over kill for KS white tail

I have been shooting the 300 grain bergers this year at 2875 fps. I have killed 4 antelope at ranges from over 900 to 400, an elk at 600+ and a whitetail at 300+. The bergers performed well on all, some hit bone others did not. All critters dropped in their tracks with the possible exception of the elk. He dropped behind some brush and we found him about 10 yards down hill from where he was standing, don't know if he just rolled there or took a few steps....

I have also killed quite a number of deer with the 300 gr SMK. It certainly opens up better if you hit bone, but I have not had any real problems with it.

You might try the 250 SMK, I think it has a thinner jacket. I have used the 250s for hunting for several years and they have always perfomed great for me. They seem to open up better than the 300s for me and typically leave a VERY large exit hole. I am running them at about 3360 at the muzzle, so I don't really know if they perform better because of the increased speed or if they do have a thinner jacket.
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Old 12-08-2010, 04:54 PM
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Re: Edge over kill for KS white tail

Your story is exactly why I don't hunt with match-type bullets, especially Bergers. If you are willing to drop down a little in weight the 250 gr Accubond will perform as needed without the need to hit bone.
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