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delemma...what 338 chambered rifle to start with?

 
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Old 01-06-2004, 04:08 AM
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Re: delemma...what 338 chambered rifle to start with?

Reading over at sniper's hide I just read this here, the SR-8 I was refering to...

George posted:
Who said a Remington was not strong enough?? We do them all the time, The Lapua is not any higher pressure than the 300 Ultra Mag and they do those at the factory, In fact early in the 338 Lapua game, Boots Obermeyer and Fred Martin at Remington built prototype rifles "SR-8" in 338 Lapua on the 700 actions in an HS Stock with a Remington built detactable mag.

Remington Long actions in the New Long AICS Chasis with the 338 Lapua AWSM Mags make a great rifle in 338 Lapua, there are a few on the site with rifles like these.

On the Savage, It is strong enough but the Savage bolthead and its extractor make it a terrible canadate for conversion.

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Old 01-06-2004, 06:45 AM
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Re: delemma...what 338 chambered rifle to start with?

George pretty much summed it up, but I'll add a little more.
I have a Remmy in Lapua, Marty at Badger has a Rem. Lapua.
George had one that went through 2 barrels. Thats over 4000 rounds of 338 Lapua in an action that can't handle it.
Remington scratched the idea because of tooling costs FWIW.
Like he mentioned and Brent also, there are a bunch of other cartridges that operate at same or higher pressures than the Lapua.
So would you please be kind enough to tell me why you think a Remmy can't handle the Lapua?
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Old 01-06-2004, 08:09 AM
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Re: delemma...what 338 chambered rifle to start with?

I'm interested in finding me a rifle in 338LM I own a 300 win mag and a 50bmg. i think this would be an exellant addition to my collection of long range tools. Which gunmaker should I look to for a reasonable priced (no frills) 338 lapua mag?
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Old 01-06-2004, 08:52 AM
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Re: delemma...what 338 chambered rifle to start with?

Chris

Maybe someone can shed light on the fact that, "well known", "very successful", 1000 yard BR and ultra longrange smiths won't touch a Remington action if the customer wants a 338/378 Weatherby, a 30/378 or the 338/416 Rigby improved or the 338 Lapua.
The only thing you get from them is a big laugh.

They simply have stated that they will not take the responsibilty of using that action for those calibers.

Would you chamber those calibers on a Remington action when someone wants to get the "Most" velocity he can from the cartridge?
Lets say 122.5 grs of WC872 behind a 300 gr bullet in the 338/416 Rigby Imp. with a 37" barrel? That's the load I use in mine.
With a load like that, I would want a 3 lug custom action or a custom action with much larger lugs then the Remington has, like the Hall and Geskie Actions I have on my 338/416 LR guns.

Ultra LR hunters are a breed of their own. They push for velocity and most times are over the specs of the case but not to the level of bolt lockup.

Would I "trust" a Remington action on my big stuff and the loads that have been successful for me-------Never.

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Re: delemma...what 338 chambered rifle to start with?

I would go with a big action like a 8.5" Bat ( I have one on order for a 338 lapua Imp ) or a 10"x2" Bat ( I am currently using for a 338 Lapua Imp) buy the best and cry once Just My 2 cents worth on this [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]
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Re: delemma...what 338 chambered rifle to start with?

I have a Rem 700 LA in 338 Lapua. Built my one of the smith's from Quantico in M40A4. It shoots fine. But I'm only pushing 87 gr of power in it. I would not realy go any bigger then that. And no way would I go with any like what DC is pushing 122.5 gr in a rem action. I like to shoot more then I would want to end up hurt or hurting someone on the ranger like my spoter. Does Rem make a 700 LA in 416 for hunting in Africa?

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Re: delemma...what 338 chambered rifle to start with?

Darryl, My guess is that these Custom Smiths you are refering to dont want the extra hasstle of the conversion on the Remington action. Like I said in an Earlier post Remington built 338 Lapua rifles in this caliber themselves. I personally have pushed the 300 grain Sierras to 3000 FPS in a 28" rifle on a Remington action. No lug setback sticky extraction only.

Im not flaming these other smiths but if they have not actully done the conversions then their words are opinion only. We will continue to build 338 Lapuas on 700's and I will be the first to reports any problems.

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