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Old 11-14-2002, 10:31 PM
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Darryl, thanks for the answer. I've reached the conclusion that you can't hunt long range unless you've got a military range finder. My Leica 1200 didn't do diddly squat at 700 yrds on antelope. It took me nearly a dozen times to get a range on one. So you really can't shoot much beyond 700 yrds unless you've got a military laser. I checked the Wild rangefinder. But at 2000 yrds, according to the formula for optics on their web site, your theoretical MINIMAL possible error is over 20 yrds. That means that your actual error will be much greater. Being 20+ yrds off at 2000 yrds just introduces another possible source of error contributing to a miss.

Hey how do you get your 67 lbs of rifle plus all other supplies to your shooting area. Do you drive up to a hill, unload all of it from your pickup, or do you pack it all in?
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Old 11-15-2002, 08:43 AM
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We have many places we can drive to and unload the heavy equipment.

When using lighter stuff (guns from 12 to 22#) we back pack our things out onto ridges for the day.

As far as being off 20 yds, at 2000 yads----we set the elevation much higher then the drop chart calls for and make a spotter shot or two over the animal to get the windage correct. The importance of your hunting partner with bigeyes is VERY important at this time.
The other way for the spotter rounds is to look ahead or behind the animal (100 yards) and look for a tree stump or open patch of dirt and fire the spotter round to it. Make your correction and go back on the animal and fire.

LR hunting (what I call LR hunting) is a team sport. Never try it alone at the ranges we shoot.

Darryl Cassel
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Old 11-16-2002, 06:51 PM
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Re: D.C.\'s spot

Hello Darryl,

What a lovely view in Colorado, especially snow on the mountains.

When you arrived at 7500 feet elevation, how was the wind? Is it more calmer in higher evelation than lower elevation, just asking?
Did Ray use similiar gun equipment as yours? (eg. a block barrel and a heavy battery?)

I have a couple of questions to ask you but will post in a new forum.

Enjoy Shooting...
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Old 11-17-2002, 02:35 AM
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Very cool hunting spots, what a view. Someday. I'd very much love to hunt elk, to some Africa is it, for me elk is the hunt of a lifetime. You guys are very lucky, I read with dripping envy of your hunts on elk. That one of (Wyo) Ricks was exitement at every turn, I told everyone I knew about it.
Brent Moffitt
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Old 11-21-2002, 07:15 PM
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Thanks so much for sharing all these photos and experiences. It makes me feel like my efforts, however painfully slow they yield progress, will one day come to the ultimate fruition.

I find your public journals (both literary and photographic) to be the most compelling . . . . . and most provocative. Hence, I must ask despite the risk of offending you. You would never reveal the location of this wonderful area in which you hunt, of course. But would you tell your public whether its on privately owned ranch land or on public land? One can never tell just from photos since the whole of Colorado and Northern New Mexico look just like it.

If you can see it, then you can hit it!
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Old 11-26-2002, 09:10 AM
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I am fairly certain Darryl's spot is on public land.
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Old 11-26-2002, 09:36 AM
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Hello to all

The spots I hunt are on "Public land".

You will never catch this guy paying to hunt on private land when there are soooooo many acres of public land in Colorado to hunt. Sort of like all the State land in Pennsylvania.

To Denny
The rifle Ray shot the deer with was simply a 36" barreled 338/375 H&H IMP.

The case is the SAME as any improved 30 cal mag using the 375 or 340 Wetherby as the parent case.
It is nowhere near as powerful as my 338/416 Rigby Imp.
It also can be shot from a regular Remington Mag action which he has on his rifle.

As per the wind question-----To a degree, wind is wind, regardless of the altitude. That's why we take the spotter shots at the range we shoot.
Keep in mind, the higher the altitude, the flatter the bullet will shoot. Hence, the bullet maintains more velocity longer and is not being effected by the wind quite as bad as at sea level.
Check any of the ballistics programs and dial in 7500 Feet and 1000 feet (for the same cartridge and speed) of elevation and notice the wind drift and velocity at 1000 to 2000 yds of both elevations.

Hope that answered the questions.


[ 11-26-2002: Message edited by: Darryl Cassel ]
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