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Old 02-10-2011, 04:31 PM
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Re: Custom Long Range Deer Rifle for a Non-Handloader

Highly accurate, factory ammo, less or equal recoil to a 30-06 and flatter shooting than a 30-06 out to 500 yds?

IMO, he will need a smaller caliber. He will also need a cartridge that has alot of factory ammo varieties available (highly accurate may take some experimentation and trying different bullet weight/brands of ammo)

He will need to stay with 30-06 or bigger case capacity to get flatter shooting and less recoil, while using a lighter bullet at the same time. Faster velocities is the number one way to get flatter shooting out to 500 yds.

Therefore, I'd suggest 25-06 or 270. Both have alot of varieties and choices when it comes to factory fodder and both kick less than the 30-06. They are both based on the 30-06 case. Also, the 270 WSM and 280 are viable, along with the 7 WSM. I am not 100% sure, but I think the 25-06 and the standard 270 have more ammo choices available though.

My 25-06 with 100 gr Barnes TSX is "hold on hair" out to 400 if sighted in at 250 like you mention. It's still got plenty of pop left at 500 if the shot is broadside and the bullet's in the vitals.

There is alot of ammo available for the 7mm Rem Mag. I've shot some 7 mags, and they are an excellent long range gun. However, I felt that the recoil was quite a bit more than the 270's I have shot, and probably more than a 30-06 even.
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Re: Custom Long Range Deer Rifle for a Non-Handloader

There are quiet a few good recommendations listed above. I would give the 7mm Remington Mag. a serious look. The recoil is on par with the 30-06 and every ammo manufacture offers loads for it.
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Re: Custom Long Range Deer Rifle for a Non-Handloader

If you go with 7mm Rem Mag, try Superformance. I friend has had good results in his Tikka T3. My Sendero kicked a lot harder than my 30-06. So, I had to install a brake. (Yes, I'm a wimp when it comes to shooting 15-20 at one sitting.) That may not be an issue for typical hunting.

I love the 25-06, but I've always been disappointed with bullet options compared to other calibers. There may only be one or 2 factory loads with a BC over .4. (BC isn't everything. But, it is one thing you can control.) Check your twist if you're building for the 115-120g's. Like most cartridges, handloading opens up your options.

Jack O'Connor would likely have chosen the 270 Win.
30-06 is very capable and lots of ammo like 270 Win.

WSM ammo may be less available in small stores. But, there are a lot of choices from larger retailers. I haven't shot them. But, I hear claims of more velocity with less recoil. 270 WSM looks about right to me with 7 WSM possibly a better performer yet more recoil.

Does anybody out there actually have a rifle like he's describing? Or, are all the serious long range folks handloaders?

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Old 02-10-2011, 05:51 PM
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Re: Custom Long Range Deer Rifle for a Non-Handloader

Whitetails and 500 yards=270WSM. Lots of good ammo and a ballistic plex scope works great out to 600+ yards.

I have shot more deer with a 270 WSM than just about all the others combined; generally 4-7 a year on average and one trip where I shot 7 on one trip. 40-50 deer since the 270WSM came out.


BTW, My deer rifle is a Kimber 8400 in 270WSM with a Burris FFII4.5-14x42 Ballistic Plex.

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Re: Custom Long Range Deer Rifle for a Non-Handloader

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are all the serious long range folks handloaders?

--richard
I would say the answer is either yes or willing to pay for custom loaded ammunition. Some factory ammunition shoots great in some rifles, but there is almost a luck factor in having the load you want shoot work well in your rifle. With handloading you can control a lot of variables.

Although I have not had one in 25 years, the .270 is what I recommend for those people who want a deer rifle that do not handload and have not shot enough to deal with much recoil. In many ways it is a perfect deer sized game caliber.

Personally, I shoot a .280 and a 6.5x55 when I use a rifle which suits my style of hunting pretty well. I also used a .300 Jarrett for quite a few years but really didn't need the horsepower after I quit traveling to hunt.
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Does anybody out there actually have a rifle like he's describing? Or, are all the serious long range folks handloaders?
I have shot both deer and antelope with factory ammo out to about 400 yds in 25-06 and 270. Not that it wasn't capable of further, I just never tried it. Both rifles were factory barrels.

However, I was shooting well tuned handloads in the same 25-06 to take a couple antelope at between 500 and 550.?
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Re: Custom Long Range Deer Rifle for a Non-Handloader

7 rem mag l would say the recoil is ok. but depends what you think what hi recoil is if you not that recoil friendly it can give you a flinch. l would go the 6mm STW if it were me. or the bang of the 7mm STW is great
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