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# Crosswind lesson learnt

#1
08-02-2009, 10:43 PM
 Gold Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Canterbury, New Zealand Posts: 675
Crosswind lesson learnt

I went hunting on the weekend, saw 7 chamois but all does and young ones so nothing shot.
I ended up taking a shot at a rock at 615 yards. We were at the head of a large valley shooting from one side to the other. The saddle was to our left and the main valley to our right. 10 mph wind right to left.
Came up 10 MOA and right 2 MOA (should have dialed 3 MOA).
Took the shot and hit approx 2 MOA high and 1 MOA left.

I couldn't work out why I was so high. About half an hour later I remembered I should have allowed for a vertical component from the wind.
The slope leading up to the saddle was aprox 26 degrees. This would have given just under 0.5 wind strength which would have lifted the bullet 1.5 MOA which would have accounted for most of the high shot.

Lesson learnt and stored, just as well it was a rock!

Stu.
#2
08-02-2009, 10:57 PM
 Platinum Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The rifle range, or archery range or behind the computer in Alaska Posts: 3,830
Re: Crosswind lesson learnt

I am confused.

26 degrees would account for about 2 MOA at 615 yards. You say you were 2 MOA high. Did you compensate for the 26 degree angle?

It seems like the thermals in and of themselves accounted for the high impact rather than the vertical wind component which should have been minimal.
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Last edited by Michael Eichele; 08-02-2009 at 11:02 PM.
#3
08-03-2009, 01:06 AM
 Gold Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Canterbury, New Zealand Posts: 675
Re: Crosswind lesson learnt

Hey Michael, I knew this explanation was going to be confusing. The crosswind was 90 degree right to left at 10 mph AND was coming UP a 26 degree slope. I allowed for the right to left component but forgot to allow for the wind coming UP the slope lifting the bullet.
A 10 mph wind coming UP from under the bullet at 26 degrees should give about 1.5 - 2 MOA lift over 615 yds ( a 90 degree 10 mph wind gives 3 MOA at 615 yds).

Hope this helps to clarify the situation.

Stu.
#4
08-03-2009, 01:54 PM
 Platinum Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The rifle range, or archery range or behind the computer in Alaska Posts: 3,830
Re: Crosswind lesson learnt

Quote:
 Originally Posted by kiwi3006 Hey Michael, I knew this explanation was going to be confusing. The crosswind was 90 degree right to left at 10 mph AND was coming UP a 26 degree slope. I allowed for the right to left component but forgot to allow for the wind coming UP the slope lifting the bullet. A 10 mph wind coming UP from under the bullet at 26 degrees should give about 1.5 - 2 MOA lift over 615 yds ( a 90 degree 10 mph wind gives 3 MOA at 615 yds). Hope this helps to clarify the situation. Stu.

That makes more sense!

Thanks
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Long range shooting is a process that ends with a result. Once you start to focus on the result (how bad your last shot was, how big the group is going to be, what your buck will score, what your match score is, what place you are in...) then you loose the capacity to focus on the process.
#5
08-03-2009, 09:18 PM
 Platinum Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,132
Re: Crosswind lesson learnt

can someone point me to a link where I can learn how to calculate for vertical wind deviation, or do I just do it on a ballistics program?
#6
08-03-2009, 10:14 PM
 Gold Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Canterbury, New Zealand Posts: 675
Re: Crosswind lesson learnt

The vertical movement is the same as the horizontal movement.
Just pretend the wind is coming from the side calculate how much it would move the bullet and add or subtract from your elevation

it is towards the end of the article.

Stu.
#7
08-03-2009, 10:59 PM
 Bronze Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 88
Re: Crosswind lesson learnt

I'm an electrical contractor by trade and this past weekend I had an eye opener as to reading wind. I was called out to consult on some small wind generators in SW idaho. These were placed on a high knob between two opposing ridges. The towers were set in a triangle pattern on the top,but at the edge of the knob.As we looked at the installation, I began to watch the direction the blades were pointing. Although the towers were only 150 feet apart,at times the blades would be as much 20 degrees apart! Now try to figure how to shoot across this ridge or up or down the slope! The wind direction was so unpredictable that it made me think that sometimes it is just luck that makes a long range hit happen, I know that they do on a semi regular basis but after watching that wind I had to give my wind reading skills another look.

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