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Coyotes with a 17 mach 2?

 
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Old 12-01-2004, 11:59 AM
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Re: Coyotes with a 17 mach 2?

Yeah budlight I did get a little off track there Sorry! [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] Still good fun though!
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Old 12-01-2004, 02:54 PM
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Re: Coyotes with a 17 mach 2?

I went to South dakota this summer to help out the ranchers. I didn't have any of my guns this time to go prarrie poodle shooting. I was loaned a 223 loaded with 500 rounds of something like 52 grain HP's. It took two full days to finish 500, but it was worth it and his P.P. population had a major set back. the friend I was with when we were discussing kill ratio. He and I both thought it was probably in the high 80% range.

That wouldn't win a trap contest to get 88 out of 100. [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] Next year I'm going to be ready to red spray out 500+ a day. It really takes 2-3 guns per person even with heavy barrels because they get hot and you have to allow for cool down time. It seemed like most of my time was spent waiting on the .223 rifle. It was hard to get through 500 rounds in two day's

To the coyote poster. I think that 223 is a low end gun also. It would be my minumum.
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Old 12-01-2004, 03:17 PM
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Re: Coyotes with a 17 mach 2?

Yeah I hear ya on the 3-4 Rifles ... They do get hot qiuck! definatly the .223 seems to bye far the most popular... good shots with no wind was out 500yds with the .223 but the kill ratio was not even close to yours ...at that range things happen quick..We Started out with a .221 FireBall , 222, ,223,.22-250 once those were all gone we moved to the 220 swift AI and the 25-06 AI was fun.. needless to say some barrels got roasted that day! [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif[/img] I am still in the process right now building a .223 AI I had it out one day to just check it out no butt pad on it nothing... Rem 700 Pac-Nor Barrel #8 Straight taper and I really was not expecting much I loaded on the hot side just because I figured I either waste the primer pockets on the first go around or I would have good formed brass first firing! anyways I arrived at the range at it was raining ....my shooting partner was more interested at the moment on my .223 AI than my new GAP .338LM both were spankin new and needed breakin in so I said well hell go at it ! I'll work on the lapua and he started in on the .223 AI anyways about 2/3 through the day we are getting close to being done and he yells out to me hey this thing is not holding copper anymore...I said so shoot it! ..I'm not shitin one hole groups for the rest of the day Fireforming no less ...the targets were totaly Soaked by the end of the day and we didn't crawl out from our overhang to place new targets we just shoot what we had..here is a group unfortunatly it is a little ragged we just peeled the sticker off the backing because it was so wet..I wish I had just cut it out ..it would have preserved the group better. here it is.

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Old 12-01-2004, 04:31 PM
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Re: Coyotes with a 17 mach 2?

You increase your % with a good shooting platform. F-350 4X4 dually with heavy comforter over the top of the cab.. My buddy does this quite often so he has bench rest type sand bags. All we would do is drive out to a colony of 1000's of mounds and park.

All shots were probably sub 350 yards. Many in the sub 200 yard. When your 7 feet up your shooting down and they are more exposed. The competion is not % but how high you can get them to pop up in the air. So I have learned to shoot right at the edge of the dirt and PP [img]images/icons/cool.gif[/img]
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Old 12-01-2004, 05:03 PM
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Re: Coyotes with a 17 mach 2?

Yeah I guess that would help lol!! we were out there on our little portable fold up Benches most homemade. [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 12-04-2004, 12:35 AM
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Re: Coyotes with a 17 mach 2?

Well I wouldnt even use a 17 Rem on a coyote past 250 yards and here is why. I shot a Red Fox standing at 355 yards with a 20gr vmax right through the lungs. He dropped sat there for a few seconds stood up and ran another 20 yards or so then fell back down and I put another into him when he tried to get up the second time to finish him off. I was not impressed at all with the performance of the 17 at that distance. Fox are easy to kill yotes a lot tougher. I think if you were shooting 100 yards or less you would be ok otherwise I think I would pick something bigger.
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