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Considering 25/06 as a varminter

 
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Old 12-15-2004, 09:04 AM
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Re: Considering 25/06 as a varminter

No game with the Accubond yet. 4 bullets retrieved from a moist clay bank showed weight retention at 65-69 percent from bullets launched at 3550-3600 fps. The bank was at 105 yards. Nice looking mushrooms with the lead bonded well to the copper. I ran into what I want to run as max in my Accumark at 73 grains of IMR 7828. Velocity was 3600 at 74 grains. Next time out will be with RL-25. That big bullet going so fast kind of takes the fun out of shooting the 257wby as a varmint rifle. It doesn't hurt or anything but it starts jumping out of the bags. My 25-06AI in that rubber Hogue stock is a real sweet heart to shoot.
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Old 12-15-2004, 10:15 AM
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Re: Considering 25/06 as a varminter

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Kirby cant find the 110grn accubond nosler load on there site. It looks like it doesnt exist.

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It does exist. As stated, MidwayUSA is selling them. You can get some information about them at NoslerReloading.com . I should have some waiting for me when I get home today. I will try them in my 25-06 as soon as I reasonably can.
I have been told to use the 115 load data to start with.
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Old 12-15-2004, 12:29 PM
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Re: Considering 25/06 as a varminter

Hired Gun, It is great to hear yet another satisfield 25/06 AI shooter. I have been using rifles (currently 2) chambered for the 25/06 AI since 1986, and like you have grown to love it. I vividly remember my eldest son (about 16 at the time) declaring one night "I swear I am going to marry this rifle some day", after shooting nine big buck Kangaroos (about 7foot tall) without a miss.

Similarly, although originally achieving 3,600+fps, I settled on about 3,550 fps with the 100 grain bullet for my field loads, and sustainable case life. I originally used the Nosler Solid base, spire point boat tail, before switching to the Ballistic Tip, but with either bullet had no trouble achieving sub 0.5 moa.

Your 3,600 fps velocities with the 110 Accubond in the 257 Weatherby are a revelation, impressive, encouraging, and are in line with what I always thought this case should be capable of.

I have never owned a rifle using the 257 Weatherby, as over the years, I have noticed that very few rifles chambered for the 257 Weatherby, seem to exceed 25/06 AI velocities by more that 50- 100 fps, despite a 12-13 grain case capacity advantage.

My gunsmith who had chambered many customer rifles for the 257 Weatherby, believed it was due to the softer brass being used, and the subsequently lower chamber pressures. I guess that prompts the question, what cases are you using, and also what is the barrel length? The photos reveal two impressive and lethal looking rifles. Regards, Brian.
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Old 12-15-2004, 12:58 PM
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Re: Considering 25/06 as a varminter

What is the b.c. of the 110 gr? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] I've been using the 115 gr. Nosle/Win. BST with b.c. of .453 with great results. My load is 49.5 gr of IMR 4350 shoots 2960fps from 1/10 twist Savage, groups are always < .5 MOA.
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Old 12-15-2004, 05:04 PM
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Re: Considering 25/06 as a varminter

off the top of my head the 25-110 AB has a B.C. of .420

Hey Brian,
I too can't say enough good things about the 25-06AI. My performance in the 24" barrel has been optimal.

As for the 50-100 foot increase of the Weatherby. Usually that is from either not slow enough powder or too short of barrel or no freebore. With 100 grain partitions my buddy was over 3900 without pressure. 3700 is a good safe speed with 74 grains of IMR7828 in the 26" barreled Weatherby. The key is slower powder. So many people try to get there with RL-19,4350, RL-22 or IMR4831 and they will hit pressure way before they get much of a speed increase. RL25 is slower than 7828 and has shown promise. This weekend if the weather holds I will go see if I can't blow myself up trying to acheive a good safe 3700 out of that Accubond. I only use genuine Weatherby brass in my Weatherby's. It has much greater capacity than the Remington brass does. If the wind cooperates I would like to do some accuracy testing too. Last time out it was gusting 30+ mph and shooting in between gusts it was under 1 inch just blasting out the window of my rig.

The 257 in a 26" barrel should put a good safe 200-300fps on any regular 24" 25-06. I know a gunsmith who does up custom Rugers in 257Wby with 30" barrels and his shop advertised load shoots 100 grain bullets at 4100fps.

JoeCool should be along one of these days and he has about the most 257 Wby experience you will ever find. We are comparing notes on the Accubond whenever we get a decent day to shoot. We have had our bullets going on a month, just the weather has been to bad to do any real development. His Accumark has just a pinch looser chamber than mine. His does over 3600 real safe with the 110. Again he hasn't tested RL-25 yet either.

I would love to get in on one of those Roo hunts. Is it possible for a tourist to bring their own rifle and go Roo hunting in Australia?
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I would love to get in on one of those Roo hunts. Is it possible for a tourist to bring their own rifle and go Roo hunting in Australia?

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You need to get a visitors permit and have access to a property. Usually you need to tag each roo you shoot but farmers allow you to shoot them because of the extensive damage they cause to their property.
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Old 12-15-2004, 07:35 PM
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Re: Considering 25/06 as a varminter

Hired Gun,

Currently, I'm considering a .25 calibre for pretty much the same work as Ageo308. I've never owned a .25 calibre before but all the data suggests that it would be optimal for the size of game and the ranges they would be encountered. Everyone speaks highly of the 25-06 but what of the .25 WSSM? Also, I've been gawking at a Weatherby Accumark in .257 Weatherby with it's phenomenal ballistics. Cost and availability of ammo are a concern though. If I did go the way of a .25 WSSM, a Win Coyote would be my pick. Tell me more about your .257!

Good to see the locals on the website. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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