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Choosing between scratch build and gently used Savage 112 varmint

 
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Old 12-14-2010, 10:30 PM
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Re: Choosing between scratch build and gently used Savage 112 varmint

For rifle stocks check out Boyds first they are cheaper than stockys.
For scopes every one always says buy the most expensive one you can afford
I have 2 lupy's that cost over $800.00 and I just bought 3 BSA's 6x24x40 for $49.00 each that are just as good as the lupy's.
then for barrels why pay 4 to 5 hundred dollars when you can get an
E R Shaw for less than two hundred I have bought 3 of them and all of them shoot 1/2" groups or less.
save your money for reloading supplies.







this is my total cost $366.00 dollar savage 7 mag boyd stock and cheap 6x24x40 tasco scope muzzel brake I made myself.
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Old 12-14-2010, 11:39 PM
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Re: Choosing between scratch build and gently used Savage 112 varmint

B&C,

There are plenty of facts you can research about the value of a good scope and what constitutes a good scope for some particular application.

Probably the best thing you can do is to shoot with and around a lot of different people, rifles, and scopes in different conditions and decide for yourself.

If you want to hunt long range, there are some very specific attributes you'll be looking for. One guy might be happy with BSA and another guy won't be satisfied unless he has a Nightforce. They are not the same. Not even close.

A BSA will not perform to the same level as a Leupold under a variety of conditions and criteria. But if you get the performance you need out of a $49 scope, then that may be just good enough and you saved a bunch of money.

I'm one of those idiots that suggests you buy the best scope you can afford even if you need to start out with something inexpensive.

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Old 12-27-2010, 06:05 PM
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Re: Choosing between scratch build and gently used Savage 112 varmint

Just thought I would come back and say thanks for the input from everybody. I bought the rifle off of Gunbroker, got it by Christmas, and shot some test loads through it today. I did get a box of Win Supreme loads from relatives but they didn't shoot so well and the nickel that came out on the swab I ran through it means I'm not shooting anymore of that ammo unless I pull the bullets and chamfer the cases. The curls of nickel and peeled up bullet/coating is actually visible where bullet meets the case.

Gun is overall in great shape, still had some copper in the bore but got all that out before shooting my test loads (85gr Combined Tech BST 50-52gr in .5gr increments). No visible action wear and the "scratch" in the stock isn't even through the finish and took me over a minute to find the first time.

Scope is not branded but is good enough to hold me over till my birthday anyway.

Here's the gun after I got it all cleaned and tuned up.



Here's the load I don't think anyone can argue with, although I take it more as "luck is a sign" as I wasn't holding that steady and my heartbeat is enough to move more than a 1/4" when not braced properly. If the hole had been any cleaner I wouldn't have even known it was a 3-shot group. Win brass, CCI primer, 52gr H 100v, 85gr CT Ballistic Silvertip.



Although one question I have is about the stock... I can't seem to find pictures of any 112 BVSS with a stock that doesn't have the black cap on the foregrip (like mine) but still has the accutrigger. What are the odds it's an aftermarket stock?

I have heard there are replacement springs to change in the accutrigger to bring the pull down to 1.5lbs as in the law enforcement and target actions with the red triggers, any source on those springs?

-B&C
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Old 12-27-2010, 06:14 PM
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Re: Choosing between scratch build and gently used Savage 112 varmint

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Although one question I have is about the stock... I can't seem to find pictures of any 112 BVSS with a stock that doesn't have the black cap on the foregrip (like mine) but still has the accutrigger. What are the odds it's an aftermarket stock?

I have heard there are replacement springs to change in the accutrigger to bring the pull down to 1.5lbs as in the law enforcement and target actions with the red triggers, any source on those springs?

-B&C

In all honesty, that looks a lot like the VLP stock like on the Mod 12 VLP's. I have one and that is a spitt'in image of it. Also the springs can be bought at Sharp Shooter Supply.

Tank
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Old 12-27-2010, 11:10 PM
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Re: Choosing between scratch build and gently used Savage 112 varmint

It does look identical to the VLP stock but mine does not have a lower magazine dump.

Can't find the springs listed on SSS, I assumed they were listed under Savage replacement parts?

-B&C
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Old 12-27-2010, 11:46 PM
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Re: Choosing between scratch build and gently used Savage 112 varmint

I've seen one other model 116 with that stock from the factory but I don't remember what it was other than a good deal on a 300RUM that I didn't take. Looks like you did good My buddies VLP doesn't have the hinge floor plate either. Call SSS on the springs,not everything is listed.
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Old 12-29-2010, 10:16 AM
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Re: Choosing between scratch build and gently used Savage 112 varmint

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In all honesty, that looks a lot like the VLP stock like on the Mod 12 VLP's. I have one and that is a spitt'in image of it. Also the springs can be bought at Sharp Shooter Supply.

Tank
Call Savage directly for a parts list and then order the parts from Midway... I have found their technical department to be pretty helpful and pleasant and reasonable.

BE WARY of Sharp Shooter Supply. Do an internet search on their customer service.

By all accounts their work is top notch, however I have personally had an experience that supports the other accounts i found by searching the internet... unfortunately i didn't find out until they had almost stolen my money.

The short synopsis is: if they have it in stock ready to ship = good. If you have to wait for anything, communicate only with email or written letter as documentation...pay only with CC and allow them to charge the card ONLY if the item is going to arrive within the dispute period provided with your cc. If the item has not arrived near the end of the period, dispute it immediately.. you will have ZERO recourse but to await their whim... hopefully you haven't pissed them off. My cc saw it my way, though it took good documentation.

Their spoken word is not binding, Their customer service is NASTY when there is a dispute. They are unreasonable... and often exceed promised lead times by factors of multiples and since they already have your money, you are stuck.
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