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Old 12-22-2010, 04:52 PM
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Building the perfect rifle

Hey guys, I am still on my search for a deer/elk rifle. I really like some of the factory rifles but after looking over some threads, I see alot of people "building their own" custom rifles. It definately caught my interest. I see that the accuracy is insane but is building your own rifle really worth it? Can you guys give me some pro's and con's to custom rifles. And if I do get more interested, where do I start and How much money should I start saving? I also notice that most of these custom rifles have a "tactical look". Im a hunter and am not a big fan of the "tac" look and I was wondering if there are ways around this. Im really new to this so please, be patient with me! Thank you so much!
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Old 12-22-2010, 05:18 PM
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Re: Building the perfect rifle

A custom rifle has a ton of pro's. You get to pick the action, the stock, and the barrel. You can pick your own components such as the trigger and in some instances the firing pin assembly. You can build with a muzzle break or without one depending on the caliber. The sky is the limit with the custom rifle. You start from scratch and build something that most other hunters will never see in their gun cabinets.

The cons are wait time for the build (depending on builder and components availability), cost, and you will never get near what you put into it when and if you try to sell it. Cost can be as little as $1500 if you use a tuned factory action with aftermarket parts (trigger, action bedded and low cost stock, no optics), or as much and not stopping at $10,000. The average is probably in the neighborhood of $3500 with and without optics. With really good optics you are in the $5000 range and up.

To start you have to figure out how long you want to wait to save and what components you want exactly. You need to decide what caliber and what purpose you are exactly trying to achieve. Is it a hunter or a target? You state you want a hunter style stock, so in my opinion a Manners UltralightHunter would fit the bill. You can choose as to how much or how little carbon fiber is built into the stock.

Then you have to decide what action. This should actually be the first step, but this also includes caliber. A medium bore caliber (.308, 243, 6.5x47, 6.5x284, 284 etc.) determines the size and length. If you want an overbore (7mmSTW, 300RUM, 338EDGE, 338 Lapua) then a larger generally more expensive reinforced action is required. This adds weight, but should you have a light stock then it is a mute point.

Then you choose barrel manufacturer. Lilja, Shilen, Douglas, Lothar Walther, Hart, just to name a few. These companies offer different variations in the same design of rifling, cost, groove count, and material make up. All are very good barrels and some are more expensive then others, but none really give up anything to the other. Application, application, application! Can't emphasize that concept enough deciding on the build options.

Trigger group is necessary as to what weight you want to pull each shot. Do you want an ultra sensitive trigger like a target 6-8oz or heavier (preferred) 1.5-3lbs. for hunting. The latter would be the proper application for a walking hunter. Then we move into bases for your optics. This is important for the action party because some actions of integral bases built into the action. So when you figure all of this out, then the scope comes into play, but I'll leave you to wrap your head around this info first.

Tank

P.S. $3500 should be the goal for rifle alone to save for!
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Old 12-22-2010, 05:25 PM
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Re: Building the perfect rifle

damn, thats pretty expensive for a college student working for minimum wage lol. This may have to wait afterall. I was looking to get a Browning X-bolt for around 800 and 3500 sounds awful compared to that. The pro's you described sounds awsome and I love making things custom. Any time I can add my personal touch or personality into something Im all for it. But damn.. i just dont know about the price right now. I gotta get through school!
thanks tank!
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Old 12-22-2010, 05:28 PM
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Re: Building the perfect rifle

If you want a good shooting factory rifle you'd be doing yourself a disservice if you didn't look at Savage.
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Old 12-22-2010, 05:45 PM
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Re: Building the perfect rifle

I have had excellent results accurizing a number of diffrent factory rifles simply with stock work and good hand loads. Customs are the best but i have worked with InterArms (the same as Howa, Wby Vanguard), Remingtons, Weatherby Mark V's, Husky's and Savages. I've never had difficulty getting any of them to shoot .8 MOA and the ones I've really worked on will shoot .5-.6 MOA all the time. I would suggest picking a caliber that tickles your pickle and go with a mid-line model. Pillar bed, free float the barrel, do proper barrel brake in, and use good optics.
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Old 12-22-2010, 05:49 PM
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Re: Building the perfect rifle

yeah now a days, i hear it is really hard to get a rifle that DOESNT shoot MOA with the proper break in. What is the best way you all have found to break in your rifles?

Ohh and thank you guys so much
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Re: Building the perfect rifle

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yeah now a days, i hear it is really hard to get a rifle that DOESNT shoot MOA with the proper break in. What is the best way you all have found to break in your rifles?

Ohh and thank you guys so much

Break in is a personal preference. If you do a search you will get all kinds of methods. Here is one suggested to me.

Barrel Break InSTEP 1 (repeated 10 times) * Fire one round * Push wet patches soaked with a powder solvent through the bore * Push a brush through the bore (5 times in each direction) * Push dry patches through the bore (2 times) * Push wet patches soaked with a copper solvent through the bore * Push a brush through the bore (5 times in each direction) * Push dry patches through the bore (2 times) * Push a patch with 2 drops of oil through the bore 1 ____ 2 ____ 3 ____ 4 ____ 5 ____ 6 ____ 7 ____ 8 ____ 9 ____ 10 ____

STEP 2 (repeated 5 times) * Fire a 3 shot group * Push wet patches soaked with a powder solvent through the bore * Push a brush through the bore (5 times in each direction) * Push dry patches through the bore (2 times) * Push wet patches soaked with a copper solvent through the bore * Push a brush through the bore (5 times in each direction) * Push dry patches through the bore (2 times) * Push a patch with 2 drops of oil through the bore 1 ____ 2 ____ 3 ____ 4 ____ 5 ____

STEP 3 (repeat 5 times) * Fire a 5 shot group * Push wet patches soaked with a powder solvent through the bore * Push a brush through the bore (5 times in each direction) * Push dry patches through the bore (2 times) * Push wet patches soaked with a copper solvent through the bore * Push a brush through the bore (5 times in each direction) * Push dry patches through the bore (2 times) * Push a patch with 2 drops of oil through the bore 1 ____ 2 ____ 3 ____ 4 ____ 5 ____

Tank
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