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Old 09-11-2005, 05:21 PM
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Building a long range big game rifle, suggestions?

I am going to build a rifle I can hunt with and shoot out to around a mile. I have a .408 C.T. but do not think it is accurate enough for what I am looking to do. I have done a lot of long range shooting in the Marine Corps with .308's and .50's.

Caliber: I am looking at the .30-.378 Weatherby. I do not care what the rifle weighs within reason, hoping for 25 pounds or less. Any other sugggestions on caliber? I would like it to have enough poop to kill an elk at extreme ranges.

Bullets: I am looking at everything from Lost river bullets to Berger VLD's and the Sierra MK 190-220. I do not know much about the Lost river stuff, with the B.C's they claim, might be too good to be true.

Barrel: I have used pac-nor barrels for a long time, like them a lot. Open to to other suggestions. I think the 3/3 land and groove deal may be a good thing with a .30-.378. 34in?

Action: Open to suggestions, do not mind a single shot.

Gunsmith: I have always built my own rifles, but with something like this I think it may be best to have more of an expert build it. Looking for a package deal; rifle, dies, etc.

Thanks for any help.

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Old 09-11-2005, 06:00 PM
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Re: Building a long range big game rifle, suggestions?

i dont nearly have as much experience as you do, but id be looking at .300H&H, .375H&H and maybe .388lapua mag?

Dan Lilja makes nice 3 grouves barrels.

Nesika makes nice actions, PGW makes a nice one for .338lapua

ask kirby if you are looking for a gunsmith. he'll also be more qualified to talk about wich caliber best suits your needs
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Re: Building a long range big game rifle, suggestions?

if you have built your own rifles before there is no reason why you cant built a long range rifle. all of them are built the same way except maybe a bigger o.d barrel and a bigger cal. long range rifle's hunting rifle's sniper rifle's all get the same quality being built if its my neighbor joe or the police force's www.parrysgunsmithing.com
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Old 09-11-2005, 06:19 PM
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Re: Building a long range big game rifle, suggestions?

The only two cal options are 30 and 338. If you will do more towards the mile, then go big case 338. The 338-416 Rigby improved in a very long barrel has few peers. Launching 300gr MK at 3100 to 3300fps gives you plenty of energy at the mile. Well used with lots of hunting success.

Have a look in the archives. Darryl Cassel has done alot with this wildcat.

I came up with a slightly smaller case called the 338 Mystic. Basically a 338-300 RUM improved with the shoulder moved forward. Estimating 10% smaller then the Rigby. Did this because of the way cheaper brass. Expected performance in the 3100fps range with 300gr MK. I had dies made by Lee (collet neck die and a seater for $50US).

The 30-378 is an excellent 30 cal cannon. you will need to use the heaviest bullets you can get. 240gr MK or some of Wildcat newer heavies are in order. For me, I went again with the RUM. A bit slower but way cheaper to shoot.

There is certainly no shortage of info on this board. Happy building.

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Re: Building a long range big game rifle, suggestions?

i would look more at a 30-338 laupa improved instead of the 30-378. It gives very similar performance with laupa brass no belt and is easier on barrels. As far as bullets I would look at wildcat bullets out of canada he is making some super heavy high B.C bullets in all calibers. If you want to shoot out to a mile and kill elk I would look for the 240 grain and up weight in bullets. Their are many on the bord that will vouch for Wildcat bullets. Good Luck
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Re: Building a long range big game rifle, suggestions?

DId you mean that you want to hunt elk at 1 mile or just to be able to shoot to a mile? This must be determined because lots of rounds are accurate to 1 mile but much fewer have the energy to kill elk at 1 mile.
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Re: Building a long range big game rifle, suggestions?

Shoot to a mile and kill elk at 1000 yards or so. At first I had ruled out the .338's but they are looking better. I have no desire to build something that I can shoot 2000 yards. I have no place to shoot that far any more.
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