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Unread 11-01-2013, 05:39 PM
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Build on Vangaurd?

I have long considered a buid for a 300wm. I always thought I would build it on a Winchester action as I have always been a fan of their 3 position safety and figured all components and after market things would be easily atainable.

However, I was offered for sale a Vangaurd ( unsure of which version)in 300wm that has never been shot and has a timmeny trigger. I know little or nothing of this action. I once got a Vangaurd 7mm rem mag in a trade but gave it to my dad as a gift.

Would this action be Good to rebuid on? are componets such as new stocks, scope mounts, barrels, etc... easily atainable? Like I stated i'm not even sure wich vangaurd it is however I've seen on the net that they are all the same with the exception of barrel and stock which I would want to replace anyway. There seems to be alot of diffrence in price so I guess until I find out which series/model it is I won't even know what to offer. However, I figured I might want to check with yal to see if I would want it at any price. Thank's, Brad
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Unread 11-01-2013, 06:03 PM
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Re: Build on Vangaurd?

I think it's a solid choice for a build. A number of custom shops use them.... Christensen Arms come to mind as one of them. I have a Howa with that action and I think it's a good one.
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Unread 11-01-2013, 10:52 PM
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Re: Build on Vangaurd?

I used one for my 300 win mag, rem 700 bases fit them.
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Unread 11-02-2013, 10:22 AM
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Re: Build on Vangaurd?

They are every bit as good of an action as a remmy or win. They just lack a little bit of aftermarket support, though still not bad. I would go for it.
There was a similar question asked a couple years back and several reputable builders recommended them.
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Unread 11-02-2013, 11:22 AM
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Re: Build on Vangaurd?

Rangerbrad, I have a Vanguard I purchased from my neighbor like new. It is a long action so I added a new barrel chambered in .257 Wby. and Bell & Carlson Medallist stock, Timney trigger, Talley lightweight rings topped with a Nikon Monarch 4x16 scope. I am very happy with this rifle and it shoots under 1/2 min. at 100 yd. Forgot I also had the barrel cryogenic treated just to try the process on a barrel, only $55. The action has presented no problems and with the longer bolt throw than my Mark V's cycles smoothly. Just my 2 cents.
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Unread 11-02-2013, 11:33 AM
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Re: Build on Vangaurd?

My dad has a 6.5-06AI that is built on a Howa 1500, which is who makes the Vanguard, and it shoots extremely well. He had a Manners T2 stock put on it and installed a Timney trigger.

Probably the biggest issue you will run into with using a Howa/Vanguard action is the barrel threads are metric and not all "smiths" can cut metric threads. I'm sure there are still plenty of gunsmiths that CAN cut those metric threads but if you are going to build off this Vanguard rifle you are looking to purchase, I would consider tracking down a gunsmith that can cut the barrel threads before you buy it but as for it being a solid build platform I think Howa's are as good as any of the others and better than most.
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Unread 11-02-2013, 02:58 PM
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Re: Build on Vangaurd?

Before you rebuild this rifle, you might want to shoot it. A lot of Vanguards are great shooters right out out of the box. You would loose some efficiency from the 24" barrel.

They are an excellent action to build from and you can get a Timney 3 position safety trigger for them. Some smiths will re-thread the reciever to standard threads which is what my smith did with the 2 he built for me. The B&C Medalist will take up to about a #5 contour but anything larger and you'll need a McMillan or Manners. The Manners stock that I got was actually contoured for the 700 action and inleted for the Vanguard, so the tang of the reciever stuck up out of the stock. The smith rounded the edges of the tang to compensate.

The 300 WM will work in it but IMO is a little crowded for seating long bullets efficiently.
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