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Old 08-11-2013, 01:07 PM
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to build or to buy???

I am in need of two rifles, and have narrowed my search down to a 6.5 with 140's and a 7mm pushing 180's. I hunt out west and hunt everything from antelope to elk. I was planning on having the 7mm built more than likely, but hadn't decided for sure. I have a competent guy locally that will take a new 7 rem mag sender and bed it, install muzzle break, and install a trigger for a little over $500.00.So including price of the sendero I would be at about almost $1700.00. If he built me a complete custom with all the freels I would be at almost three grand.
Now for the 6.5, I was ready to pick up a new Sako grey wolf in 6.6x55 for $1425.00. I have never had a Sako that didn't shoot well for me.
These guns will be hunting guns, as I don't compete. I will however shot them a lot at paper competing with my friends and what not, but they are primarily for hunting.
Now I was looking around and noticed that NorthWest Action Works sells barreled actions with choice of triggers for around $1450.00 I know I can get a good stock from Greybull for about $350.00, then I pretty much have a cheap custom for the same price as the senderro and the sako.
One last thing, I would have the option of going with other 6.5 and 7mm calibers if I went the second route. That way I wouldn't be limited to JUST the 7 Rem Mag and the 6.5x55 sweed. It seems that the 7mm wsm or the 7/300WSM is more preferred around here than the 7 rem mag anyways. It also seems for the 6.5, the sweed receives a little less love than the others as well. Thoughts and opinions please....???
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Old 08-11-2013, 02:00 PM
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Re: to build or to buy???

I would suggest having the 7mag Sendero reamed to 7mm STW if you want to push the 180's fast for long range.

6.5x284 seems to ge quite a potent 6.5 round. As I have no prsonal experience owning one, I can't give anymore input than that.
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Old 08-11-2013, 02:08 PM
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I would suggest having the 7mag Sendero reamed to 7mm STW if you want to push the 180's fast for long range.

6.5x284 seems to ge quite a potent 6.5 round. As I have no prsonal experience owning one, I can't give anymore input than that.
Good advise & concerning the Sendero, you would have a good platform that is VERY easy to customize if the 7STW did not work out, but likely it would.
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Old 08-11-2013, 02:21 PM
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Re: to build or to buy???

there is a wait for custom. my senderos work nicely. i would stick with either a 7mm rem or stw.
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Old 08-11-2013, 02:31 PM
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Re: to build or to buy???

My first question to you is: Do you plan to handload for these rifles? If the answer is no, you are wasting your time with any 6.5 with the possible exception of the 6.5 Creedmoor.

The good ole' Swede gets quite a bit of love. Check out the thread with the favorite 6.5 cartridge poll in the Rifles, Bullets, Barrels, and Ballistics forum. Like most 6.5's though, it's a handloader's cartridge.

My second question is: Why choose two rifles so close together in bullet diameter? Other than speed and flatness of trajectory, there really isn't much difference between the two. The 7RM shooting 180's might give you a bit more reach, but that's it.

If you handload, build a 7RM on whatever action you like and be done with it. Or buy a Winchester Model 70 in .264WM and be done with it.

I am a big 6.5x55 fan. If you acquire one of the above two rifles, still want a 6.5x55, and plan to handload for it, I suggest building one rather than buying one. The factory rifles in this chambering never seem to get the combination right to allow the shooter to get the most out of this cartridge. Build the rifle to your tastes, but make sure that it has a 26" barrel with a 1:8 twist. Feed it Lapua brass and Berger bullets and load it to modern pressures.

If you don't handload, buy an off-the-shelf 7RM and all of its favorite factory ammo that you can get your hands on.
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Old 08-11-2013, 04:40 PM
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My first question to you is: Do you plan to handload for these rifles? If the answer is no, you are wasting your time with any 6.5 with the possible exception of the 6.5 Creedmoor.

The good ole' Swede gets quite a bit of love. Check out the thread with the favorite 6.5 cartridge poll in the Rifles, Bullets, Barrels, and Ballistics forum. Like most 6.5's though, it's a handloader's cartridge.

My second question is: Why choose two rifles so close together in bullet diameter? Other than speed and flatness of trajectory, there really isn't much difference between the two. The 7RM shooting 180's might give you a bit more reach, but that's it.

If you handload, build a 7RM on whatever action you like and be done with it. Or buy a Winchester Model 70 in .264WM and be done with it.

I am a big 6.5x55 fan. If you acquire one of the above two rifles, still want a 6.5x55, and plan to handload for it, I suggest building one rather than buying one. The factory rifles in this chambering never seem to get the combination right to allow the shooter to get the most out of this cartridge. Build the rifle to your tastes, but make sure that it has a 26" barrel with a 1:8 twist. Feed it Lapua brass and Berger bullets and load it to modern pressures.

If you don't handload, buy an off-the-shelf 7RM and all of its favorite factory ammo that you can get your hands on.




Benchracer......Thanks and YES, I plan on reloading for my guns. As for why I was chosing the particular rounds that I did, flat shooting and hard hitting is what I was trying to accomplish. I basically think I can get by with only three calibers. Here is my thought process. I live in North Dakota and will be shooting several different size animals.
I plan on using a 22-250 for coyotes which I hunt all winter. I get a chance to do a lot of mule deer hunting as well as antelope. For this, I would like a descent middle size caliber that doesn't weigh a lot especially if Im doing a TON of walking in the mountains or the badlands. I don't want this to be a big bulky gun and would prefer a gun I can shoot a lot without a muzzle break.
As for the 7mm Rem Mag, I am wanting a gun that will be suitable for elk out to six hundred or so, and wasn't wanting anything bigger than the 7Rem Mag for recoil reasons. I was thinking a After researching a little, the 7Rem Mag with 168 and ESPECIALLY the 180's seem to be quite a ways from the 6.5 140's.

So basicly if it was you, you are saying go straight from the 22-250 to a 7Rem mag and call it a day? I guess I was just thinking of having my middle weight rifle a little lighter and smaller for more easily carrying. I also had thoughts of the 7 Rem Mag as being a bigger Sendero style gun that would also be a little better for playing around on the bench.
Thanks again
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Old 08-11-2013, 05:13 PM
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Re: to build or to buy???

If you have a .22-250 (small), and you want to go with a med & large calibers next, I'd build a .257 Wby (medium), and a 7mm STW (large). That should cover all your bases and needs.
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