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Old 05-07-2013, 03:48 PM
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I SAW SOME 30 CAL. 210 VLD`s AND 2 BOX`S 7mm 168`s 4 BOX`s 180`s VLD`s SPORTSMAN`s WAREHOUSE CHATT. TENN. LAST NIGHT
Apparantly someone else got them....They don't have anymore...
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Actually bullet length in and of itself has nothing to do with making a better BC. Longer noses and to some degree longer boat tails yes but raw length actually hurts the BC. Equal nose profiles, meplats and boat tails, yet one bullet is made out of copper and the other jacketed lead and weigh the same. Guess which one is longer. You guessed it. The copper one. Which one has a higher BC? The jacketed lead bullet. Why? Because there is less surface area to drag.

Long bullets have a reputation for having high BCs because longer bullets usually have long sleek noses, sleek boat tails and are on the heavy side. Raw length does BCs no favors.
Michael, I understand your explaining and I agree. That being said, I do also believe
that if we limit bullet comparisons to the same "bullet material" l and the same "bullet weight", the longer bullet
will always be more aerodynamic with of course a higher BC.
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Re: BOTW Divorces Berger & Marries Nosler

Agreed. Obviously same weight/material etc...the longer one is only longer due to a sleeker design. No way around that.
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Actually bullet length in and of itself has nothing to do with making a better BC. Longer noses and to some degree longer boat tails yes but raw length actually hurts the BC. Equal nose profiles, meplats and boat tails, yet one bullet is made out of copper and the other jacketed lead and weigh the same. Guess which one is longer. You guessed it. The copper one. Which one has a higher BC? The jacketed lead bullet. Why? Because there is less surface area to drag.

Long bullets have a reputation for having high BCs because longer bullets usually have long sleek noses, sleek boat tails and are on the heavy side. Raw length does BCs no favors.
And if we compare the 210 LR AB to the 210 Berger VLD the LR AB is slightly longer, however it is also made of more jacket material and a plastic tip giving it a lower specific gravity as well as more bearing surface. My guess is that it is very close to the same BC as the VLD which would make it about .1 in G1 less than advertised.
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And if we compare the 210 LR AB to the 210 Berger VLD the LR AB is slightly longer, however it is also made of more jacket material and a plastic tip giving it a lower specific gravity as well as more bearing surface. My guess is that it is very close to the same BC as the VLD which would make it about .1 in G1 less than advertised.
Agree with that......Rich
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And if we compare the 210 LR AB to the 210 Berger VLD the LR AB is slightly longer, however it is also made of more jacket material and a plastic tip giving it a lower specific gravity as well as more bearing surface. My guess is that it is very close to the same BC as the VLD which would make it about .1 in G1 less than advertised.
I can't say I disagree.
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Apparantly someone else got them....They don't have anymore...
Im sorry i dont know how to pm noboddy but if i see any more i will pick them up for you if you want
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