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Old 02-10-2012, 05:48 PM
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Re: Best North America Hunting/Long Range caliber.

It was off hornady, drops I had . One on jbm had 2825 200 nab 1400 e @600. 325wsm, my books show 325 taking a few grains more powder than 300 wsm for compressed and max loads. I only own one 30 and I just had it handed to m e30-30 pre 64, so I am not up on 30 ca.
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Old 02-10-2012, 06:06 PM
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What load does it do that with, and do you shoot once and throw brass away? I am just curious, because I am shooting almost same thing, and I HAVE 1341 E @ 600. If you shoot a 340 wm W/225 nab it is 2023 E @ 600, more bullet 10 gr. more case capacity? Shot that for almost 25 years. I just always see alot of talk of 300 WSM being a 1000 yrd gun and elk mentioned in same post?
Easy there bud. I'm not saying the 300WSM is Gods gift to LR shootin. The guy already has a 338 RUM, & a 270WSM already. What better way to fill the gap between the two? I mentioned if he wanted to fling bigger projectiles that the win, Wby, & RUM would be much better choices.
I also NEVER mentioned 1k AND I also stated that if he wanted to bust brownies at 800 then USE THE 338RUM he already has.
If you took the time to read what I wrote before you went off, you'd see that. You could probably also see that I was writing my post as LTLR's post was posted. I didn't see his till I hit the submit button on mine. I'm in agreement with both of you for LR on big ass critters. Use a 338 (something adequate not some 7mm cause it looks good on paper)
For an all round rifle anywhere I hunt, I prefer a 300, but I don't shoot past 800, & that was the only range stated that I saw.
If someone wants to fling Bergers, there are a few 30 cal bullets out there that blow the doors off of that 8mm Shortmag at most any range on paper. I don't fling Bergers tho.
Like many folks, you & LTLR included, I like tough bullets for big critters. That usually puts me in or around the 800yd & less range for 1800fps with my Accubonds with the cartriges I shoot.
I have a 338 win too, but it never gets any use, cause its a clip fed Browning A-Bolt. Nothing to do with the caliber. It just doesn't fit my style of hunting. You even offered to give it a good home a couple years ago Remember?
I understand your frusteration with folks preaching "Pea shooters" for long range on big game. I hate that too. But a 300WSM is almost identicle to a 300win, & even beats it by 50 fps avg. with 180's, & 190's in some load books (Hornady 7th edition) with the win mag listed as having a 25" barrel, & the WSM having a 24. I also mentioned a 26" barrel specifically, because of some load data for 26" pipes (Nosler). For flingin 180-190 pills its pretty dang impressive, & cost less to shoot for the same or better performance than the 300 win with those bullets. While it doesn't have the 1500 ft lbs at 800, its certainly up to the task of filling the gap between the 338RUM, & 270WSM he already has.
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Re: Best North America Hunting/Long Range caliber.

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What load does it do that with, and do you shoot once and throw brass away? I am just curious, because I am shooting almost same thing, and I HAVE 1341 E @ 600. If you shoot a 340 wm W/225 nab it is 2023 E @ 600, more bullet 10 gr. more case capacity? Shot that for almost 25 years. I just always see alot of talk of 300 WSM being a 1000 yrd gun and elk mentioned in same post?
One of my recent loads is the 230 Berger in Norma brass,7828 SSC, 2700 fps. Delivers 2033 ft/lbs to 600 yards at sea level. At my hunting altitude it will carry 2027 ft lbs to 775 yards.

I'm not intending to toot any horns here, but people have discounted the 300 WSM with heavies for years. As it turns out, the 300 WSM is quite capable with the right combination of components, just like anything else.
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Re: Best North America Hunting/Long Range caliber.

0-250 yards 35 Whelen

250-750 yards or so 7mm STW

750 to longer than I am confident 338 Lapua

Back up 41 Magnum revolver

all around under 1000 yards, 300 Win Mag
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Re: Best North America Hunting/Long Range caliber.

I agree with the others....you are set for rifles. I remember an old sying " beware the man who has only one gun....he propbably knows how to use it".....it sounds like you are getting better optics, that would be my next step.

If you still got money to burn, spend it on a very good rangefinder, I just got a Vectronix Terrapin as an upgrade from my swaro's.........
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Re: Best North America Hunting/Long Range caliber.

A properly loaded 270 WSM is about an ideal all around chambering, the only thing that throws it is including brown bear but most of use will never have the opportunity to take a brown bear or if we do it would be the kind of deal that I would buy a rifle specifically for that.
I dig the 270 WSM loaded with Matrix bullets and the 338 RUM/Lapua/Edge with a 300gr OTM. At my elk hunting elevation my WSM hits 800 yards at 2152 fps with 1800 ft lbs of energy which is ample to wack and stack an elk with room to spare, my 338 RUM hits 800 yards with 2085 fps and 2800 ft lbs of energy. Both will blow an ample hole through an elk but the 338 does it with more flair and if big bears were consistently on the menu or the shooting over 1100 yards I would have a 338 in hand!!
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Re: Best North America Hunting/Long Range caliber.

Biggreen,
can you give me some specifics on how your wsm is is getting over 200# of energy at 800 yards.
A 7 RM shooting the 180's has only got 2000# of energy at 700 yards, 5000' altitude, 3000fps
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