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Old 07-24-2012, 07:29 PM
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Best caliber for long range ?

I have played with wildcats for years 30-378 and 338-378 and 378 weatherby s .
I dropp tube with H870 and pack 130 grs . need long bbls as 29 in
30-378 with 180 gr out at 3900 fps
338-378 with 210 gr at 3600 fps
378 with 250 gr at 3500 fps

Long range is not a challenge if you have range finders and a good scope . Flat trajectory helps some of the problem but not all.
Bullet weight takes care of wind some but you lose trajectory , balance is what?
50 BMG is horrible trajectory but great in wind and predictable same as a 308 .
308 is accurate but you better know the yardage within a yard at 500 plus or it sucks.
Speed ? Equals flat but balance bullet weight and BC .
I still like the 378 weatherby as my pick in 250 gr Barnes with a custom chamber and 30 in bbl and muzzle brake light weight contour .Put a Nightforce with custom torrents set to yardage and good to go anywhere in the world for anything .
Flat little guess out to 600 yds but after that rangefinders . Game doesn't always wait for the ranging and your spotter etc .
Long range competion are not a good judge the CMP military shoots yes 308 can do it and 1000 yd is owned by 50 BMG variations in yardage changes the game .
Weight of the gun ? Carbon works but lightwiegt bbls are ok without it for 3 shot or cold shot so not needed. Under 10 lbs total not a problem .
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Old 07-24-2012, 07:50 PM
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Re: Best caliber for long range ?

One of the best I have found in a carry weight hunting rifle is the 378 Weatherby shooting the high BC Cutting Edge bullet. Around a .9 BC at around 3000 fps.
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Re: Best caliber for long range ?

[QUOTE Orion....1000 yd is owned by 50 BMG

didn't think they were accurate enough at 1000 to even be competitive
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Re: Best caliber for long range ?

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I have played with wildcats for years 30-378 and 338-378 and 378 weatherby s .
I dropp tube with H870 and pack 130 grs . need long bbls as 29 in
30-378 with 180 gr out at 3900 fps
338-378 with 210 gr at 3600 fps
378 with 250 gr at 3500 fps

Long range is not a challenge if you have range finders and a good scope . Flat trajectory helps some of the problem but not all.
Bullet weight takes care of wind some but you lose trajectory , balance is what?
50 BMG is horrible trajectory but great in wind and predictable same as a 308 .
308 is accurate but you better know the yardage within a yard at 500 plus or it sucks.
Speed ? Equals flat but balance bullet weight and BC .
I still like the 378 weatherby as my pick in 250 gr Barnes with a custom chamber and 30 in bbl and muzzle brake light weight contour .Put a Nightforce with custom torrents set to yardage and good to go anywhere in the world for anything .
Flat little guess out to 600 yds but after that rangefinders . Game doesn't always wait for the ranging and your spotter etc .
Long range competion are not a good judge the CMP military shoots yes 308 can do it and 1000 yd is owned by 50 BMG variations in yardage changes the game .
Weight of the gun ? Carbon works but lightwiegt bbls are ok without it for 3 shot or cold shot so not needed. Under 10 lbs total not a problem .
Are you intending on hunting? Competition?

If hunting what are you planning to hunt and how?

If competition then they type of competitive venue and what they allow will largely dictate what you will use or can use.
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Re: Best caliber for long range ?

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I have played with wildcats for years 30-378 and 338-378 and 378 weatherby s .
I dropp tube with H870 and pack 130 grs . need long bbls as 29 in
30-378 with 180 gr out at 3900 fps
338-378 with 210 gr at 3600 fps
378 with 250 gr at 3500 fps

Long range is not a challenge if you have range finders and a good scope . Flat trajectory helps some of the problem but not all.
Bullet weight takes care of wind some but you lose trajectory , balance is what?
50 BMG is horrible trajectory but great in wind and predictable same as a 308 .
308 is accurate but you better know the yardage within a yard at 500 plus or it sucks.
Speed ? Equals flat but balance bullet weight and BC .
I still like the 378 weatherby as my pick in 250 gr Barnes with a custom chamber and 30 in bbl and muzzle brake light weight contour .Put a Nightforce with custom torrents set to yardage and good to go anywhere in the world for anything .
Flat little guess out to 600 yds but after that rangefinders . Game doesn't always wait for the ranging and your spotter etc .
Long range competion are not a good judge the CMP military shoots yes 308 can do it and 1000 yd is owned by 50 BMG variations in yardage changes the game .
Weight of the gun ? Carbon works but lightwiegt bbls are ok without it for 3 shot or cold shot so not needed. Under 10 lbs total not a problem .
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Re: Best caliber for long range ?

Competitions are set ranges and only about groups and not mobile etc.
Then its a wind issue only etc hence a 50 BMG and not a 416 Barrett , etc
Bullet drop is terrible on a 50 BMG but I also have one. Hunting and no spotter or rangefinder , it will stay at home. 378 weatherby is going.
I agree the 300 gr at .9 BC works . Barnes , Berger , etc VLD but lite enough to match the powder , BBL, to get the sweet spot of your combination is key.
Accuracy , well 1/2 in at 100 yd will work in a 308 , 6.8 have accuracy but not a 1000 yd gun .
Accuracy is what we are talking , dont get hung up on 100 yd groups and think it is the same at 1000 yds etc
Best gun after 500 yds accuracy , no 308 .
Military Snipers are slowly coming around but they need production not reloads and wildcats etc. 223 then 308 then 30/06 then 300 win mag then 50 then 416 Barrett to name a few in progression.
But they will never have a 378 as an example but spotter , rangefinder , Bors, etc can be deadly, not in a run around the USA type system .
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Old 07-25-2012, 09:26 AM
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Re: Best caliber for long range ?

I have a Bull BBl 22 lr in 10/22 custom out that can shoot 1/2 groups at 100 yds ( no wind) .
It is not a 1000 yd gun .
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