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Best BC .277 140 gn Berger Hunting VLD or .277 Hornady SST

 
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Old 05-22-2012, 09:32 PM
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Best BC .277 140 gn Berger Hunting VLD or .277 Hornady SST

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Sometime back I was writing to a friend about loading some 270 Berger hunting VLD's and he mentioned that the hornady SST showed better specs than the Berger VLD's on the Ballistic Calculator. I didn't say anything but I didn't really agree either. Looking at the berger hunting VLD and the Hornady SST I just couldn't see that being true and wasn't sure how he came to that conclusion.

Well, tonight I got to looking at Hornady's specs online for loaded Superformance 270 140 gn SST amo. The specs hornady touts say's 3090 FPS at the muzzle will net you 2187 FPS and has 1487 Foot lbs at 500 yrds. I hadn't see a published BC for that round so I started plugging numbers into their own ballistic calculator. I used the 3090 for MV etc and tried different BC's till I came up with .494 which gave me the numbers they tout at 500 yrds.
Berger says the BC of their .277 Hunting VLD has a BC of .487 so now I see where my friend got the idea that the SST's have a higher BC.

Am I alone in thinking the Burgers look so much more streamlined and aerodynamic? Is Hornady actually correct on the BC? Any thoughts on this out there? Thanks, Terry
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Old 05-22-2012, 09:52 PM
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Re: Best BC .277 140 gn Berger Hunting VLD or .277 Hornady SST

Technical Information: Berger Hunting Bullets 264 Caliber, 6.5mm (264 Diameter) 140 Grain VLD Hollow Point Boat Tail

  • Sectional Density: 0.313
  • Ballistic Coefficient: 0.612
  • Recommended Twist Rate: 1 in 8"
Berger Hunting Bullets 264 Cal 6.5mm (264 Diameter) 140 Grain VLD Hollow Point Boat Tail

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Hornady Manufacturing Company :: Bullets :: Rifle :: Choose by Caliber :: .277 270 CAL :: 270 Cal .277 140 gr SSTŪ




270 Cal .277 140 gr SSTŪ
Item Number
27352
Weight
2.09 lbs
Ballistic Coefficient (G1)
0.495
Sectional Density
0.261


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Old 05-23-2012, 05:32 AM
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Re: Best BC .277 140 gn Berger Hunting VLD or .277 Hornady SST

Thanks T3-OleMan, The Berger definitely won that BC match between the 277 and 6.5, and I may not have explained it well, but I was trying to compare .277 bullets to each of other of equal weight since my friend shoots a 270 winchester. So I was trying to keep the comparison between apples and apples.

I wanted to load something in a 277 bullet that would probably fly a little better than what he had used in the past and suggested the Berger VLD.
I just felt the Bergers look so much more streamlined with the long nose and long boat tail. I wasn't sure if maybe Hornady was super hyping their bullet or if it actually had the BC they suggest?
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Old 05-23-2012, 07:44 AM
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Re: Best BC .277 140 gn Berger Hunting VLD or .277 Hornady SST

You were right about that. That 0.612 will eat that SST up. But, will the 'OleGirl' like 'em?

Good luck and good eye.
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Re: Best BC .277 140 gn Berger Hunting VLD or .277 Hornady SST

I shot a pile of both and prefer the Berger, the Berger shot much better and had much better terminal performance across the effective range of the rifle. I'm very hesitant to slam an SST into an elk. The tip on the SST will really help BC, I was really hoping they would shoot for me cause the would make a good bullet out at the end of the effective range since it will open so easy.
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Re: Best BC .277 140 gn Berger Hunting VLD or .277 Hornady SST

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Thanks T3-OleMan, The Berger definitely won that BC match between the 277 and 6.5, and I may not have explained it well, but I was trying to compare .277 bullets to each of other of equal weight since my friend shoots a 270 winchester. So I was trying to keep the comparison between apples and apples.

I wanted to load something in a 277 bullet that would probably fly a little better than what he had used in the past and suggested the Berger VLD.
I just felt the Bergers look so much more streamlined with the long nose and long boat tail. I wasn't sure if maybe Hornady was super hyping their bullet or if it actually had the BC they suggest?
Have a look at the .277 165gr Matrix.

Also, Berger is coming out with a new .277 that'll have a better BC.

-- richard
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Re: Best BC .277 140 gn Berger Hunting VLD or .277 Hornady SST

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Have a look at the .277 165gr Matrix.

Also, Berger is coming out with a new .277 that'll have a better BC.

-- richard
Richard, appreciate the info. I'm already into the 165 Matrix Hunting VLD, see my link. I think I have some useable Elk loads worked up for that bullet.

Load work for Ruger 270 Win, for Elk

But getting back to this post I guess I was looking for someone to agree that the present 140gn 277 VLD might be a better choice and have better BC. I guess you kinda said that in a round about way though.

I haven't fired off but a few SST's and never hunted with them but in reading articles by folks like Chuck Hawks they don't appear to be the bullet of choice for heavier game.

Also Biggreen, did you have any trouble getting the SST's to group well? I know the bergers I have shot will fly well but generally not till you figure out how far to set them from the lands.

Terry

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