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Berger VLD VS Accubond

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Unread 03-18-2009, 12:05 AM
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Re: Berger VLD VS Accubond

I do exactly what Phorwath does.
Accubonds for the short stuff and VLD for long range.
Works great for me. I really like the accubond performance and the VLD accuracy is handy at long range with small targets.
Our Blacktail deer only weigh about 100 pounds so when they get out past 400 yards they shrink really bad. You need a very accurate rifle with a high BC bullet to make an ethical shot.
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Unread 03-18-2009, 12:23 PM
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Re: Berger VLD VS Accubond

Thanks for the input.

Carrying both is not a bad idea at all and something I never really thought about.
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Unread 03-18-2009, 03:42 PM
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Re: Berger VLD VS Accubond

If there's a better way, it hasn't been presented to me yet. I'm surprised it isn't a standard practice for 90% of LRHs.
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Unread 03-18-2009, 08:33 PM
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Re: Berger VLD VS Accubond

Originally Posted by phorwath View Post
If there's a better way, it hasn't been presented to me yet. I'm surprised it isn't a standard practice for 90% of LRHs.
There is a better way, just that nobody makes that bullet yet!

I have always been apposed to the idea simply because I seldom found a super stout bullet that would strike the same POI at 300 yards as my softer LR bullet. I didnt want to have to have 2 scope settings. One for 0-300 yards and one for past 300 yards. Lately I have found my TSX load AND my long range load to be within 1 to 1.5" of eachother at my 300 yard zero. For a 300 yard shot that is close enough for any critter big enough to merit a TSX. I will simply zero for my LR bullet and use that ballistic data for anything past 300 yards and anything 300 and under will get the X bullet 1-1.5" off center. I guess this is the direction I will be heading. I have always kicked around the idea but never embraced it. Now with a perfect LR load cooked up and a super stout bullet near the same POI at my zero, I'm in.
Long range shooting is a process that ends with a result. Once you start to focus on the result (how bad your last shot was, how big the group is going to be, what your buck will score, what your match score is, what place you are in...) then you loose the capacity to focus on the process.
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Unread 03-18-2009, 11:37 PM
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Re: Berger VLD VS Accubond

I just got a 300 RUM and have been researching this topic for a while.

I think the idea of carrying short to midrange bullets along with a LR bullet/load combo is a good idea. Of course, one bullet would be best and I may be able to do that.

Here's my approach and bullet selection...

Short-midrange out to 800 yds give or take
180 E-Tip, BC .523, MV ~3300+
200 AB, BC .588, MV ~3200

Long Range, over 800 yds
210 JLK VLD, BC .665, MV ~3150
210 Berger VLD, BC .616, MV ~3150

All Ranges
177 GS HV, BC .638, MV ~3500+

Different rifles like different bullet/load combos. For short range I'll start load development with the E-Tips because I like monometal bullets. If they dont light my fire then I'll try the 200 AB's. For LR, I'll start with the JLK's because they show a better BC, but that may be questionable and BC will always have to be verifeid on the range with any rifle/bullet combo.

The 177 GS HV's give better velocities per weight, as much as 100-200 fps over other similar weight bullets. They are reported to be excellent killers. They are monometal and at higher velocites they will shed their petals, but they will still do a lot of permament wound channel damage with their squared slightly mushroomed frontal. The Jury is still out on their BC, but if it's close to advertized it will out run any of the other bullets listed and take you well past 1K. I think they are worth trying... no guarentees yet. And they cost over $1 each, but they are also advertized to add barrel life which is a big plus for the 300 RUM. Twist may be another limiting factor with the GS's

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Good shooting and keep us posted on your developments.

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Unread 03-24-2009, 10:04 AM
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Re: Berger VLD VS Accubond

I have a 7mag and shoot the 160 acubonds. If they would just make a NBT in 160 gr. then you could shoot the ballistic tips for the longer ranges and the accubonds for shorter, since they usually have the same poi. But I guess that would be too much like right for them to do that.
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Unread 03-24-2009, 01:51 PM
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Re: Berger VLD VS Accubond

I shoot a 7 mm mag and use the 160 accubond for under 350 yds and the 162 amax for over 350 yd. The sight in with the 162 amax and the POI for the accubond is close enough at 350 to use without any sight adjustments.

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