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Old 03-27-2003, 10:13 PM
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Bedding something with a bedding block?

I'm seeing alot of you guys bedding the HS Pecision stocks. I've heard Monte's reason, What is the reason that some of you other guys are doing it? And does anyone know what the torque specs. are for an HS stock?Jay
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Old 03-28-2003, 03:04 AM
 
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Jay-
I've been beding them for years because of one reason--THEY DON'T FIT THE ACTION.
Its just that simple. When you remove the action on a non-bedded HS stock, you will see two thin transfer lines of aluminum along the bottom of the action. These lines are the only place the action is touching the stock. Right thre, you can plainly see where you will NOT have a stress free bed for you action, once the action screws are torqued to 65 inch pounds.
I have all but given up on HS Stocks because of poor quality control(voids, chips, cracks, brittleness)in favor of Holland Laminated and McMillan Fiberglass, but I have one I'm putting together from spare parts and decided to use the HS(its all I had on hand), but you can bet your a** that I will bed the thing before a shot is fired....Thanks for asking--Rant Mode OFF

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Old 03-28-2003, 07:56 AM
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Re: Bedding something with a bedding block?

CJ, My 4 HS stocks all have them lines, like two pencil marks, and back by the tang the line is shaped like the tang, how much more contact do you need? I think thats how HS planned how the reciever is supposed to fit in their stocks, did you ever contact them and have them explain why they do it that way, you must be from that 'old school' where the reciever MUST make a 'prefect mirror' image of the stock, not so, you should see my 6mm shoot with no bedding,>1/4" at times and consistantly >3/8", and my sons 22-250 shoots damn good also, can't wait to try out my 223VS and my 708 s/s with an HS sporter stock I got on clearance from Midway. CJ, you should have sent them stocks back that have chips, voids etc.Brad will be glad to work with you,I had a problem with a thumbhole stock that canted the rifle to the right with a bipod attached and I didn't feel like I should have to correct it with my bipod, so I told him to make me an M24 stock instead (sand color), I like that stock better than my thunbhole, I think. To summarize, so far my rifles shoot like gangbusters with no bedding, and in another month I'll get to shoot my 223&708, I'll let you know how they do,Oh my God, there's no bedding in there, how can they possibly shoot? [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] Jay
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Old 03-28-2003, 08:25 AM
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Re: Bedding something with a bedding block?

Chris,
I agree that the HS stocks should be skim-bedded and was told that the U.S. Army found that out also. Was also told by HS that the real problem is the fact that Rem. 700 receivers are NOT straight round tubes as we would hope they are. Therefore they cannot fit into the V-shaped aluminum bedding block like they should. I have an HS stock with a 700 action in it that is skim-bedded and it shoots very well. Also have an HS rifle that has no bedding and it is a solid sub 1/2 moa rifle for the 5000 rounds thru it so far. They say that their action is true, no need to skim-bed.
No doubt a lot of Remington actions do fit properly into the HS stock, just like a lot of them don't fit well. That is the reality of all the variables involved in making recievers. I believe that HS's CNC machines should be able to make very identical aluminum bedding blocks, that should be an easier task than creating exactly true round receivers. Understand that there are a lot of stresses imposed when the various cut-outs are done to the receiver, plus the buffing and polishing stages can even effect the final dimensions a bit.
HS stocks are made by a completely different process than McMillans - you pay your money and get what you think is the best.
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Old 03-28-2003, 10:12 PM
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Re: Bedding something with a bedding block?

Have you guys considered that the reason you can see those marks is because there is movement between the stock and the action?

Those are friction marks caused by the action rubbing on the aluminum.

I don't think a bedded action is going to leave marks anywhere ....

Just a thought.

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Old 03-29-2003, 07:31 AM
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Re: Bedding something with a bedding block?

Has anyone considered lapping the action into the aluminum bedding block using scope lapping compound and technique?

That would certainly make them fit together better.
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