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Old 05-14-2013, 08:45 AM
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Re: Anybody regret NOT going 338?

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I'll take a 1/2 MOA 7mm with a G1 of .67 or greater, single digit SD, 3200+ MV over a 338 3/4 +MOA, .818 BC, double digit SD, 2800 MV for hunting big game with ranges between 700-1100 anyday. With precision and MVV being about equal the 338 will end up in my hands the vast majority of time even on medium sized game.
I certanly under stand the equalizing that speed brings to the table. With my rifles they both shoot slightly above a half inch. Its just that for my needs a 338 brought a combination of benefits that apealed to me.If I was ever forced to own 1 rifle for big game it would be a 7mm rm hands down.
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Old 05-14-2013, 09:15 AM
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Re: Anybody regret NOT going 338?

Mainly hunt elk here in MT,hung up 7mm more than 20 yrs. ago,now lets see, which one off my three 338's do I take today
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Old 05-14-2013, 09:29 AM
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Re: Anybody regret NOT going 338?

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I certanly under stand the equalizing that speed brings to the table. With my rifles they both shoot slightly above a half inch. Its just that for my needs a 338 brought a combination of benefits that apealed to me.If I was ever forced to own 1 rifle for big game it would be a 7mm rm hands down.
If I lived somewhere where elk wasn't on the menu and had to have just one rifle, it would probably be something like a 6.5x284. If elk was on the menu, which it is for me, a 300 mag equivalent or better would be the rifle for LR 1000 yd elk. The 7RM is capable of killing elk at that range but that is pushing its limits. The 300 adds some comfort to that shot and the 338 adds even more comfort.

That said, the OP has other rifles and is looking for a good LR 1000 yd that is " intended to be the biggest baddest gun in the safe"

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I'm in the process of ordering parts for a semi custom build.
This build is intended to be the biggest baddest gun in the safe.

With my current abilities and the time I have for practice I doubt I would ever attempt to take game at 1,000 yards, but I would like the gun to be capable of doing so.

So, with an absolute max of 1000 yards, on lets say elk to be aggressive, is something in the Edge / Lapua category really necessary?

Or would something with slightly less recoil and cheaper to shoot, say 7 STW or be enough for this kind of build?
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Old 05-14-2013, 09:39 AM
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Re: Anybody regret NOT going 338?

Back to the OP...

The STW will not be much less to shoot (a few pennies of powder and a few pennies per bullet) than a 300 RUM and you will rebarrel more often at about $600 a pop. The 300 RUM will be a little less to shoot than the 338 Lapua or Edge but you will rebarrel more often. You might not ever rebarrel a 338.

As far as recoil, a 7 RM has a good kick and an STW kicks harder than a 7 RM. Put a good brake on, which is highly recommended for any LR rig, and kick is not a factor for any rifle.
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Old 05-14-2013, 09:47 AM
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Re: Anybody regret NOT going 338?

I still don't see why with given a 1,000yd max for Elk that the 7mmSTW has been so discredited. It was designed for that specific purpose.

Boy do I wish ole Layne Simpson would jump in on this conversation, he'd have a field day.

How much experience with a 7mmSTW do you have Montana? How many barrels have you shot out as compared to a 300 RUM?

And no, I'm not being sarcastic, I'm seriously asking you a legitimate question.

I don't have any experience rebarreling 300 RUMs...I'll admit it, but I still don't see how pushing something that large, as fast as a hotter smaller bullet won't burn out the throat equally as fast... That's a big flame coming out of the RUMs.

I've had my 7mmSTW for 11 years and STILL have not shot the barrel out...

My STW doesn't have a brake on the end...And it doesn't kick hardly anymore than a 7mm RemMag does. It actually kicks less than my buddy's 300 WinMag.
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Old 05-14-2013, 09:51 AM
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I still don't see why with given a 1,000yd max for Elk that the 7mmSTW has been so discredited. It was designed for that specific purpose.

Boy do I wish ole Layne Simpson would jump in on this conversation, he'd have a field day.
Every cartridge has it's pluses and minus's. I seriously would like to know why you think I am "discrediting" the STW. Please show me exactly what I said that wasn't true.
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Old 05-14-2013, 10:00 AM
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Re: Anybody regret NOT going 338?

I'm talking about everyone who shoots a .30 cal or larger seems to think it is somehow way better than the smaller cartridges, just because it shoots a larger diameter bullet. It took a while for me to help my buddy (the one with the .300 WM) realize this. But after seeing how finnicky his rifle is, and how capable mine are, he is starting to realize that the world revolves around all calibers, and not just the .300 WM, like he had thought before.

I wasn't talking about just you man, so don't take things so personal. I was just making a generalized statement.
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