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Anybody regret NOT going 338?

 
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Old 05-07-2013, 10:15 AM
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Re: Anybody regret NOT going 338?

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Not really....The 7RUM is only about 1.2-3% faster (which averages about 61 fps)...
Common now, that is the difference between the 7 STW and the 300 RUM that MontanaRifleman gave earlier. You can't claim that the STW is great because it is faster than the 300 RUM, but not acknowledge that the 7 RUM is that much faster than the 7 STW...just saying, can't have your cake and eat it too!

Either way, to get back on board with the OP, whether you go for a 7mm, .308, or .338 cal, if they are in any of the caliber's referred to in the last 11 pages, you will have an excellent long range rig. Obviously everyone has their opinions.
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Old 05-07-2013, 10:46 AM
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Re: Anybody regret NOT going 338?

[QUOTE=Rangerpl;804075]I bought a .338LM for various reasons.

I've read many posts stating the .338LM is too much gun for N/S American game, but I wonder if as much study has been done regarding tuning the .338LM for lighter loads? What performance related comments would there be when comparing a 160gr .338 bullet or a 300gr .338 bullet?

Biggest downside I have with my specific rifle is the weight and the cost of the ammo. It wouldn't be hard to shoot up a mortgage payment with 1 sitting at a range if your shoulder could take the punishment.

when you decide its ok to shoot at a live animal theres only 1 thing thats important.
that is hitting and killing the animal as quickly as possible.
the best gun is the one having best chance of doing that. size of the cartridge
is insignificant.
as for the lighter bullets sure they will give higher initial velocity. but that will soon be gone. the 338s have become popular for 1 reason and that is good bullets. 20 years ago you could hardly find anyone using a 338 in pa.
the 30x378 was the king of the hills. you either had one or you wanted one just that simple. now all thats changed and we can thank the good bullets for that happening and its getting better.
as for cost of shooting dont shoot it unless you have a reason for doing so.
practice with others. i would argue you dont need to shoot that much anyway.
broz just stated he had some woman who had never shot long range hitting targets right off. that should tell you something about the difficulty. of coarse
she was only able to do that because he put the clicks on.
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Old 05-07-2013, 11:19 AM
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Re: Anybody regret NOT going 338?

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If we were comparing heaviest for caliber with highest bc wouldn't it only be fair to use the 190gr matrix 7mm with a bc of .807. It wouldnt change the outcome much but that is the heaviest for the 7mm that I am aware of.
If the .807 BC were true, it would indeed up the ante for the 7mm cartridges, but it would still not hit as hard as the 215's and 230's from the RUM. That said, Bryan Litz lists the Matrix .284 190 VLD G1 BC of .637. The Berger 180 Hybrid will give more bang for the buck.
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Old 05-07-2013, 08:56 PM
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Re: Anybody regret NOT going 338?

Some very interesting points and a good read. Thanks for the inputs. You all are lucky to have opportunity to practice at some of those distances. Pretty cool.
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Old 05-07-2013, 09:49 PM
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Re: Anybody regret NOT going 338?

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If the .807 BC were true, it would indeed up the ante for the 7mm cartridges, but it would still not hit as hard as the 215's and 230's from the RUM. That said, Bryan Litz lists the Matrix .284 190 VLD G1 BC of .637. The Berger 180 Hybrid will give more bang for the buck.

That and we would need to compare custom .338 bullets that can lay a smack down on even the bergers.
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Old 05-08-2013, 08:03 AM
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Re: Anybody regret NOT going 338?

Everyone is going to have their opinion on this topic. But when the smoke settles and the boys grow to men there are two calibers that really have better capability than other calibers. If you look at F class shooting, If you ask the manufacturers of custom long range rifles what caliber they use, if you understand ballistic coefficient, If you do this you will come to the conclusion that the 7mm caliber is the best long range caliber with recoil in mind. The 338 can do better but to push 300gr of lead to modern velocitys you will most likley start to flinch. On a budget a 162 amax or 180 berger in a 7mm rem stoked with retumbo and a WIN MAG primer 26 in barell 1 in 9 twist or faster is hard to beat.
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Old 05-08-2013, 09:02 AM
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Re: Anybody regret NOT going 338?

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Everyone is going to have their opinion on this topic. But when the smoke settles and the boys grow to men there are two calibers that really have better capability than other calibers. If you look at F class shooting, If you ask the manufacturers of custom long range rifles what caliber they use, if you understand ballistic coefficient, If you do this you will come to the conclusion that the 7mm caliber is the best long range caliber with recoil in mind. The 338 can do better but to push 300gr of lead to modern velocitys you will most likley start to flinch. On a budget a 162 amax or 180 berger in a 7mm rem stoked with retumbo and a WIN MAG primer 26 in barell 1 in 9 twist or faster is hard to beat.
Thank you, my fellow 7mm brother. I agree completely.

However, for me it's a 180 VLD stuffed into an STW case where it's touching the lands, with a bunch of H1000 and a Fed 215 GMM primer. It works wonders when shooting 3-shot groups into the same ragged hole from a Rem 700 Sendero SF 7mmSTW with a 26" 9.25 twist barrel..
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