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Old 06-21-2009, 12:56 AM
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any suggestions about a 300 wsm

what gun would someone recomend if i want a fast bullet, knock down power, and be able to reach a 1000 yds no problem????


I was thinking about a 300 wsm remington 700 but am not sure...
because i have heard that there barrel life is not that great.

if i did dose anyone know what kind of powder they take

ANY SUGESTIONS WOULD BE HELPFUL.
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Old 06-21-2009, 07:30 AM
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Re: any suggestions about a 300 wsm

What do you have now? I have a soft spot for the 7mm wsm as I cant get it out of my head.
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Old 06-21-2009, 10:08 AM
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Re: any suggestions about a 300 wsm

Just my .02 but shooting at 1K is a huge challenge. The Remington 700 is a marginal platform at best to reliability put the round into a kill zone in 100% PERFECT CONDITIONS. What this means to you is that your shooting skills must be on par with the best which includes the all important rest and how that will affect the where the bullet goes but most and foremost is being able to judge the condition. 99 out of 100 people are shocked when they see what misjudging the speed and direction of a 4 to 8mph wind will do to the POI. The BR sport teaches you a lot esp. about condition and how to judge it.

I know this is not what you want to hear but reading hunting magazines and watching hunting shows will not make you a better marksman. Getting out, practicing using the proper equipment and technique will, and of course gaining knowledge by select individuals who post here. Good luck but it sounds like you need to get out and actually wear some barrels out----try it---sure is fun!
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Old 06-21-2009, 01:01 PM
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Re: any suggestions about a 300 wsm

First, welcome to Long Range Hunting Forums

Next... I have a 300 WSM and I consider it to be about an 800-900 yd hunting cartridge at best, depending on load, elevation etc. I say this because the down range velocity (approx 1800 fps) required to open most bullets along with the momentum to ensure adequate penetration is reached at these ranges. Beyond that it is questionable as to whetehr or not your bullet will do the job. As for barrel life, the 300 WSM is a great choice. i dont have the refference and maybe someone else does, but a BR contest was won with a 300 WSM with 4000 plus rounds down the bore. I think the 300 WSM is a great cartridge and if you want to limit yourself to 800-900 yds on deer and elk type game, it's a good pick. However, to get to say 900 yds, you need a good rifle and and good loads. IMO most factory rifles and factory ammo will not get you there. Precision is critical. For a factory 300 WSM, I would recomment a Sub MOA VanGuard, they are very good rifles made by howa and have very good stocks. If you want to shoot at ranges beyong 500 yds, you should look at handloading if you are not already a handloader. It is critical to get consistant performance from shot to shot.

I think the best out of the box rifle and cartrdge(s) for 1K hunting would be the Remington Sendero in 300 RUM or 7mm RUM. These cartrideges will have a lot less barrrel life than the 300 WSM but they have better range and the Sendero has a great rep for accuracy. You can expect about 1000 shot barrel life. If you shoot 200-300 rounds initially for load development and practice then another 50 rounds a year, you have a 10+ year barrel, and when it burns out, you have a great platform for a rebarrel/build. If I where in the market for a Sendero (already have one) I would look for a good used one of the original SF's because I dont care for the new SFII wide beavertail stock and fat palm swell. The Sendero is a stout rifle wieghing 8 1/2 lbs.

As Boss Hoss mentioned, there is a lot to shooting 1K, but it's not undoable.

Good shooting,

-MR
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Re: any suggestions about a 300 wsm

300WSM is a great cartridge. H4350 works well with 180gr and heavier bullets. Varget works great at 165gr and less. My Savage is a sub 1/2moa performer and can reach 800yds very easily.

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Old 06-21-2009, 10:10 PM
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Re: any suggestions about a 300 wsm

awesfall,
The .300WSM is a fine round. My experience with this cartridge is limited but there are other's out there just as and more capable than it. The specific rifle really comes down to what appeals to you and what your wallet allows. I gravitate toward heavy barrel rifles. That's really all I look for when I go into a gunshop. These usually make accurate shooters. Not everyone likes those type barrels due to weight.
I wouldn't worry about barrel life just yet. Ya gotta get the rifle first and then shoot it alot to get to that concern. A 1000 rounds through one barrel is a lot of shooting. Most people do not shoot that much and never shoot out their barrel.
How much shooting and reloading experience do you have? As for powder(s); I got great accuracy using RL22. There are so many powders and it depends on what you're wanting to do with what bullet. Give us some more info. JohnnyK.
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Old 06-22-2009, 09:04 AM
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Re: any suggestions about a 300 wsm

I have a 300WSM in a Savage Low Profile Mod 12. It is a 26" heavy barrel and should do the trick. I have a muzzle break to lessen the recoil because I shoot heavy pills. For the range you want to be able to hunt and reach, custom barrel and a 210 Berger or 208 A-Max should work good. Another bullet to consider is the JLK. Their 210 VLD long boat tail has a BC 0f .690. Using ballists calculator it actually figured close to .700.

You should really consider these heavier bullets to perform at distance. Some guys will say lighter, faster, is better,but it comes down to retaining speed and energy when you get out there. With these bullets I have listed according to ballistics programs I have used should get you to 800 for elk and around 1200 for whitetails. My velocity in my 26" is right around 2800 avg with about a 30 fps ES. This is going with the theory of 1500 ft lbs for elk and 1000 ft lbs for whitetails. Have fun figuring this all out. I am still learning. I've been heavily engrossed in research with caliber and balistics for about 2 years now. This sight is a great information source. I would suggest 6mmbr.com.

The 7wsm or 7mm Rem Mag. would also be some calibers to consider if you don't want to shoot powder burners. These are mildest calibers and barrel life is half of the 300wsm, but with the high BC 180 and 168 bullets available, these would also be viable for your consideration. The 7's are really making a come back and the recoil is much less.
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