well i must say i don't even know where to begin. let's see, as far as the 4 hours, yes, you can usually tell when it's hit good.these deer were seen going down and not moving. there was a river and ground they couldn't cross until after dark, but again, i wasn't there. the original post asked about results with a 50 or a Chey-Tac case. knowing there aren't many with the 375, i thought i'd post some results, even though they aren't what everyone wants to hear. i thought this is what the forum is for. we share information when we get good results and bad. Kirby expressed his doubts in his usual polite and descriptive way. i understood what he was saying but was just passing along what i had heard from a source that was as good or better than anyones.i wouldn't post something on here if it was from someone i didn't know.i sent Boss Hoss a PM asking to explain his comment.i'm waiting to hear from him about the question of my integrity. i understand he's won a 1K shoot or two, that must give him the right to be rude.
in the future i'll try not to post anything other than the accepted norm.
I have to agree with you Kirby. I get ragged on for taking the long shots I do.
Many of those who are critical of long shots have had poor examples of "killing shots" with some caliber, and it usually all boils down to shot placement.
As for a 7 not having the capability of killing animals, I know from personal experience, having killed 1 of every North American big game animal with a lowly 7Rem Mag, it can be done, and very successfully. I do not do any close range hunting, but with the 7 was not ever concerned at 700 yard shots.
Back to the original question.
I hunt with my 50s , my 1st kill was a mule buck at 740 yards, using a 750 gr Amax, entrance was just over 1/2", strange part was NO exit wound at all.
He was quartering away from me, the bullet entered about 2" behind the rib cage. Inside it looked like a frag went off, it was UGLY!! but he was instantly dead. I won't use any more Amaxs for hunting, too much damage.
Besides up here Amaxs are virtually impossible to get.
Kills 2 and 3 were Mule does, we have LOTS of them here and last year I got in on a cull hunt. The bullets I used were Wildcat 750 RBBTs. Doe #1 died on the spot at 975 yards, 1/2" entrance 2" exit through the ribs, she was perfectly broadside. Doe#2 was 1170 yards out also broadside same wound entance and exits.
This year another mule doe, but at only 690 yards, same performance.
In Africa this spring using my 338LAI with 300 gr SMKs managed to instanly kill a good sized Gemsbok buck at 650 yards broadside just under 1/2" in and 3" out. An impala took same 300 gr SMK front on in the sternum but when the SMK exited 8" ahead of his tail, just above the pelvic bones a 7" dia wound was left, with alot of entrails hanging out, it would seem that 338LAI is too much gun for 175lb game at 300 yards.
My 2280 lb Eland took 1 of Wildcats 325 gr Bonded bullets from the 338LAI to put him down. The Eland had places to be and was not wasting any time. My shot was further back than I had aimed and planned for, but not knowing at that time how fast they travel... Anyway the shot entered just behind the pelvic bones, travelled along the spine, through the shoulders and we recovered the bullet just inside the dewlap. The bullet travelled 5 and 1/2 feet through the old bull, is now 312 grains in weight and measures 1.350" dia at the widest point. The Eland was 570 yards from me when I shot.
I have photos, I just need to figure out how to post them.
You know it is funny that most of the old guys who shoot with me in the IBS 1K game always like to brag about the group size----if it were up to me it would be score first then group size to determine the winner. Most just kind of stare at me when the subject comes up but the objective is to hit what you aim at and if you can't then you no have buisness shooting at an anmial lol "hoping for luck to be on your side" because we all know luck has nothing to do with it period...... In the end it has more to do with where you hit them than what you hit them with to a large extent.
Please post the 338LAI pics as I have a sporter and tubes for my competition rifles in that little jewel...
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well i must say i don't even know where to begin. let's see, as far as the 4 hours, yes, you can usually tell when it's hit good.these deer were seen going down and not moving. there was a river and ground they couldn't cross until after dark, but again, i wasn't there. in the future i'll try not to post anything other than the accepted norm.
That is a reasonable explanation that I would buy. The biggest reason I raised this was to bring to light ALL the circumstances. I too have been an hour or more getting to an animal myself, after glassing for enough time to make certain nothing is going to get up and wander off. My intent was not to agravate you and am sorry if I came off that way. I get a bit defensive on long range hunting ethics.
I agree with you these forums are for sharing experiences that we can learn from, be them positive or negative.
Boss Hoss I don't know how to post photos on this forum, but on my website on the home page is a photo of 2 old guys and an Eland, the rifle is my 338LAI the guy in camo is me. Alberta Tactical Rifle Supply
Long Distance is BETTER than being there
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JWP Am I missing something here? All that comes up on my computer is a box with a red x in it.
I appreciate all the help I can get, as computers still mystify me, and I just can't bear the thought of asking my 15 year old daughter for help. She already knows everything, and I am just a stupid old relic, just ask her.
If someone would try to walk me through the how to post stuff here I would be beholden
Long Distance is BETTER than being there