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Old 10-16-2013, 03:22 PM
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Re: 810Y one-shot kill Lazz WARBIRD

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Mike338 ,,,,,,,

I agree ,, but just remember that UNTIL the rifle and shooter ARE up to the task, all of the fancy ballistic solutions and scope mounted bullet drop compensators, do you NO GOOD ,,,,,

the original post, which is the subject of this thread, the 810Y shot on that beautiful coues deer I was lucky enough to shoot, that shot was made with a hold-over mil-dot scope, and a range finder ,,,,,,,

nothing else, no portable weather station, no handheld ballistics computer, no iPhone app ,,,, none of that ,,,,,

and the problem that I see today, is that all of these new shooters are led to believe that their iPhone app can solve everything along with the new scope adjsutment technologies ,,,, and that is just NOT the case ,,,,,
That was a beautiful Coues you got with a great shot and I agree that a great many sink their hopes and fortunes into gear that may or may not even contribute to their task. That said, the guys that are missing with the i-phone and dialing up the scope are just as apt to miss with a hold-over, assuming their rifle is up to the task. Modern bullets and hand-loading (with a generous amount of practice) greatly contribute to the likelihood of of placing your shot where you want it. Lots of guys these days are reliably stretching it out successfully on game. I can't find fault with what's working for you.
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Old 10-17-2013, 08:12 AM
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Re: 810Y one-shot kill Lazz WARBIRD

correct ,, and that is THE best point you have made ,,,,,,,

whatever each one of us is shooting, regardless of caliber, bullet BC, speed, blah, blah, blah ,,,,,, each individual shooter must use what works for them ,,,,,

and as I said at the beginning of this thread, my 810Y one shot kill on the Mexico coues deer was the longest shot that I have personally made in the field on a game animal ,,,,,,

I know there are a lot of shooters/hunters out there much better than I ,,,,,,, but those of us that have been at this game for a while fully realize just how far 810Y really is ,,,,,

shots at those distances at our precious game animals cannot be taken lightly,,,,
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Old 10-18-2013, 07:52 AM
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Re: 810Y one-shot kill Lazz WARBIRD

what is even more amazing to me, is that this particular Lazz Warbird rifle has never been re-barreled, has more than 1,300 shots thru it, and has a 1 in 14 twist rate ,,,,,

certain shooters on this board would call that a "silly twist rate", but it works very well with the 168gr HPBT Sierra bullets ,,,,,,

we are now learning of course that there are advantages to tighter twist rates and longer VLD bullets for long range shooting, but back when I built this rifle in the middle 90s, that is what was working ,,,,,,,

I WAS lying on the ground in the dirt and rocks when I made this shot, so that probably helped the accuracy quite a bit ,,,, lol
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Old 10-18-2013, 10:23 AM
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Re: 810Y one-shot kill Lazz WARBIRD

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I can't afford the rifle or to shoot it but that's not a Lazz problem. That's a me problem.
Mike,

I saw your post and had to quote it. It is maybe my favorite post ever, as it has very broad context that applies to a lot of things on this forum and in our country in general. We all get pretty jaded to our little circle of existence, our opinions, our points of view, etc and measure everything else (often passionately) against it. for whatever reason your quote seemed to break through that in a really no BS kind of way.

I really liked it and thought I'd let you know.

FWIW I have a "me problem" in regard to owning a Lazz rifle as well...
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Old 10-18-2013, 08:05 PM
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Re: 810Y one-shot kill Lazz WARBIRD

I can understand all of that ,,,,, a $6,000 rifle is just not a drop in the bucket these days ,,,,,

this recession we are in is going on 6 years ,,,,,

the government is spending $$ faster than any of us can make it ,,,,,,

when I started my first business at age 22, all I had was 50 bucks ,,,,,,, and it took YEARS before I could even afford my first Weatherby Mark V ,,,,,

so it is OK for anyone to look at a Lazzeroni rifle as just being out of reach ,,,,,,

but when you DO get to a point in your life that you can afford one, you can be assured that it will be the very best that I know how to put together ,,,,,
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Old 10-18-2013, 08:47 PM
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Re: 810Y one-shot kill Lazz WARBIRD

I just paid 68k for a work truck. 6k for a rifle sounds about right.
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Old 10-19-2013, 08:09 AM
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Re: 810Y one-shot kill Lazz WARBIRD

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I was going that very direction at one time, but then I had trouble getting the Berger 190gr VLD hunting bullet to shoot well at 300 yards at Lazz Warbird velocities ,,,,,,,

I just finished building a new Warbird rifle for myself with Schneider's 10 twist, 5-groove polygon barrel, and I am going to shoot the Bergers again to see if this improves ,,,,
Try shooting the OTM's or Tactical bullets with the thicker jacket and see if that improves things.

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