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7mm vs 300 wm.

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Unread 03-19-2011, 01:18 PM
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Re: 7mm vs 300 wm.

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Soundwaves, if you are asking which is the best all around hunting rifle between these two it is the 300 winchester by far. You must compare realistic velocities with good quality hunting bullets when doing a comparison.
maybe by far for you. it could be more powerfull but if that was the issue every one would buy a 50 cal. !!!! for you the 300 and for me the 7. its a matter of choice. thay both ate conciderd the top 2 hunting rounds around the world with the 30-06
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    Re: 7mm vs 300 wm.

    I am telling you fact which one is the best, no opinions. The 7mm rem mag does not even belong in the discussion with the 300 magnums. The 7mm rem mag is a fine cartridge but it is not a 300 magnum and can not do the things a 300 magnum can do. In your opinion if the 7mm rem mag fits you best then have fun with it. But don't argue with fact and try to say it will do what a 300 magnum will do because it will not.
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    Re: 7mm vs 300 wm.

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    I am telling you fact which one is the best, no opinions. The 7mm rem mag does not even belong in the discussion with the 300 magnums. The 7mm rem mag is a fine cartridge but it is not a 300 magnum and can not do the things a 300 magnum can do. In your opinion if the 7mm rem mag fits you best then have fun with it. But don't argue with fact and try to say it will do what a 300 magnum will do because it will not.
    I have to agree here. The 7mm rem magazine is a great round. But I would say it is barely even a magnum. If you want to comare a 7 to the big 300s I would say you need to start with the wsm at a minimum and preferably the stw for a fair comparison.
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    Re: 7mm vs 300 wm.

    Let’s say; we worked with both calibers using one of the best BC bullets in each caliber, at the same velocity and see what we have.

    7mm Remington Mag
    .300 Winchester Mag.

    7mm Mag
    Range(yd) Clicks ¼ moa
    --------- ------
    0 0
    100 0
    200 6
    300 15
    400 25
    500 36
    600 48
    700 61
    800 76
    900 91
    1000 108

    Click chart generated for .284 (7MM) 180-GR Match Target VLD
    Muzzle Velocity = 2850 ft/sec, BC = 0.659

    .284 (7MM) 180-GR Match Target VLD, 2850 ft/sec at muzzle, 100.0 yds zeroed.

    Range (yds) 0.0 100.0 200.0 300.0 400.0 500.0 600.0 700.0 800.0 900.0 1000.0
    ------------------- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- -----
    Bullet Height (in) -1.50 0.00 -3.25 -11.82 -26.24 -47.21 -75.56 -112.26 -158.13 -214.42 -282.65

    Wind Drift @10.0 mph 0.00 0.48 2.00 4.67 8.48 13.54 20.00 28.01 37.56 48.83 61.99
    Wind Drift @15.0 mph 0.00 0.73 3.00 7.01 12.71 20.30 30.00 42.02 56.34 73.24 92.99
    Wind Drift @20.0 mph 0.00 0.97 4.00 9.35 16.95 27.07 40.00 56.02 75.12 97.65 123.99

    Note: Wind is at 90° to the bullet path.

    .300 Mag
    Range(yd) Clicks ¼ moa
    --------- ------
    0 0
    100 0
    200 6
    300 15
    400 25
    500 36
    600 49
    700 62
    800 77
    900 93
    1000 110

    Click chart generated for .308 210-GR Match Hunting VLD
    Muzzle Velocity = 2850 ft/sec, BC = 0.631

    .308 210-GR Match Hunting VLD, 2850 ft/sec at muzzle, 100.0 yds zeroed.

    Range (yds) 0.0 100.0 200.0 300.0 400.0 500.0 600.0 700.0 800.0 900.0 1000.0
    ------------------- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- -----
    Bullet Height (in) -1.50 0.00 -3.27 -11.92 -26.49 -47.76 -76.59 -114.05 -160.97 -218.86 -289.25

    Wind Drift @10.0 mph 0.00 0.51 2.10 4.90 8.88 14.21 21.04 29.50 39.59 51.56 65.55
    Wind Drift @15.0 mph 0.00 0.76 3.14 7.35 13.32 21.32 31.55 44.25 59.39 77.35 98.33
    Wind Drift @20.0 mph 0.00 1.01 4.19 9.79 17.77 28.43 42.07 59.01 79.18 103.13 131.11

    Note: Wind is at 90° to the bullet path.


    Man’…, I've got to tell you, this looks like a horse race… two very fine cartridges. I’d think both cartridges loaded too there optimum levels, well'.., there’s no clear winner with any bullet weight.

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    Re: 7mm vs 300 wm.

    Can you also post the energy levels for these charts?
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    436,

    The difference is what a 308 cal 210 gr bullet will do to the animal vs what a 284 cal 180 gr bullet will do. Will the animal know the difference? Maybe, maybe not... it depends on the animal and the shot. All esle being equal, the larger bullet will cause more destruction.

    I think I would prefer the 308 210 on a large boar at long range. Could the 284 180 gr do the job? Probably... but It's always nice to have a margin.
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    Re: 7mm vs 300 wm.

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    I am telling you fact which one is the best, no opinions. The 7mm rem mag does not even belong in the discussion with the 300 magnums. The 7mm rem mag is a fine cartridge but it is not a 300 magnum and can not do the things a 300 magnum can do. In your opinion if the 7mm rem mag fits you best then have fun with it. But don't argue with fact and try to say it will do what a 300 magnum will do because it will not.
    reed my first post!!!!! l never said the 7mm had more power. someone else said and l asked if it was true. so sorry that the round you like is sooo ugly
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