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Old 04-11-2002, 09:05 PM
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7mm Ultra

Anyone using the 7 Ultra? How does it compare to the 7 STW? Toss-up? Right now I have a 7 STW that I'm thinking about replacing with a 7 Ultra or maybe 300 win. Will be a custom Rem 700 that weighs under 12 pounds and will be used for hunting "close range" - never more than 600 yards on Elk and Deer.
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Old 04-12-2002, 12:57 PM
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Re: 7mm Ultra

well I'll give you my two cents.I have an STW and a 7rum.. The stw is more efficient than the rum and more accurate..My rum is what I was expecting it is not as pleasurable to shoot and cost more to get the same results.It takes 10 to 15 grains of powder in the rum to get the same resrlts.. I hope this helps. [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 04-18-2002, 08:17 AM
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Re: 7mm Ultra

My partner has the 7 RUM & so does a friend of his & they both come out of the box shooting a 1/2 moa. He's not a recoil fan so he's never thought about magnums until he shot it, now it's one of his favorite. It seems the 300 win. kicks a bit harder. Good luck!
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Old 04-18-2002, 03:04 PM
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Re: 7mm Ultra

I have three 7/8mm rem mags or the now stw, two 7mm/300 wby's and two 7mm/300 ultra mags. My ultras are faster but I don't know by how much since the ultras are 31 and 30 inch barrels while the stw's are 28". STW's and the Wby's are a tossup. One of the 7/300 wby's will shoot as fast as the ultras but I can't guarantee where it will hit which severely limits it's use. The ultras in my opinion do require either a very heavy gun or a muzzle brake for long range accurate shooting. The 7 ultra is a barrel burner and mine will be rebarrelled into something else after a few hundred shots. The ballistics look good with the heavier bullets out of the longer barrels. Owning one with a barrel under 30 inches would be like driving a 'vet in a 25 mph zone. This way overbore cartridge needs some barrel length to give it an advantage over the smaller 7mm's. Again just my opinion from a lot of shooting with a lot of rifles. I also have two 300 ultras and like them much better than the 7mm version as a big game rifle.
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Old 04-18-2002, 03:49 PM
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Re: 7mm Ultra

OK, the 7mm RUM is a bust. Do you think there's any advangtage to the 300 mags inside 7 or 8 hundred yards?
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Old 04-19-2002, 08:21 AM
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Re: 7mm Ultra

I don't claim to be a expert on this stuff, just offering an opinion so get some other ideas before you make a decision. I feel one of the improved versions of the 300 ultra would make a better big game rifle than the 7mm. Larger caliber, bigger bullet going the same speed or faster with just as high or greater BC is better in my opinion. I will always go with the larger caliber on big game if all else is equal. I have used 338 caliber rifles for all my dead serious big game hunting for many years. If you check the BC on all calibers you will notice they keep getting better up to 338 caliber then they start getting worse again (excluding the +700 grain 50 cal). 338 has the highest BC, most weight and punches a big hole for old color blind guys like me who have trouble spotting blood on the ground. In the heavy winds of the rockies the 250 and 300 grain 338 bullets seemed to always perform better to me. The only problem is it takes a big case to get them rolling which means a muzzle brake, which I use on lightweight hunting rifles, or a heavy target model to shoot them accurately.
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Old 04-19-2002, 02:20 PM
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Re: 7mm Ultra

LRH,

Ever considered doing a custom rig on one of the Lazzeroni cartridges www.lazzeroni.com?

Take a look at the ballistics for the 7.21 Firebird (284), the 7.82 Warbird (308), and the 8.59 Titan (338).

For instance, their 8.59 Titan holds ~10grs more water than the 338 Lapua.

Give them a look.

Brass and dies are more than what one is use to, but the cartridges flatout perform.

Dies are from Lazzeroni - $115.00 (just like custom dies)

If you have an existing barrel that can take the reaming of a Lazzeroni, you can rent a reamer & go/no-go gauges for 2 weeks for $45 from www.reamerrentals.com.

Lazz brass can be bought from Lazzeroni or Midway for about $2/case.
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