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Old 10-14-2010, 03:30 PM
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7mm Terminal Performance Issues? True or False?

Guys,

Had an interesting conversation with a gent about terminal performance on big game with 7mm guns. He is convinced that there are issues with many of the hunting bullets in 7mm and maybe the caliber itself. I heard the typical story, 50 years of hunting experiences, hundreds of animals taken by him or his clients, and he thinks the 7mm does a worse job than the 6.5, 270, and .30 caliber offerings as far as putting down a critter quickly. I have seen a couple hits from friends guns that should have anchored an animal and didn't and they were 7mm. I have also read bits and pieces about this on chat forums as well.

Is there anything to this story? I know this is a tough question to answer as there are so many variables to consider but am interested in everyone's opinion. I am sure the magnum 7's will perform completely different than the standard offerings too so that will make a difference on things as well. Maybe a focus on the lower to middle end of the spectrum as far as power is concerned.

I am thinking about buying a 7mm-08 for my son's first gun due to the low recoil and excellent BC's of the 7mm but want to make sure that I am looking at every side of this before I buy it.


Interested to see the feedback.

Thanks in advance.
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Old 10-14-2010, 04:18 PM
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Re: 7mm Terminal Performance Issues? True or False?

I have taken many animals with 7mm cartridges of all sizes. With the proper bullets they kill stuff like anything else. I can't see that a 7mm-08 with proper bullets wouldn't be as good as anything else as a starter rifle.
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Old 10-14-2010, 04:24 PM
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Re: 7mm Terminal Performance Issues? True or False?

Down here in NZ the 7-08 is the biggest selling calibre.

I have switched to the 7mm rem mag in the last couple of years and have been very impressed with it's performance. Most game are DRT a few have run, but not far, ranges from 20 - 630 yds, 160 NAB, 162 a-max, 168 berger.

If an animal wasn't anchored it is not because the bullet was .284 in diameter as opposed to .264 or another.

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Old 10-14-2010, 04:36 PM
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Down here in NZ the 7-08 is the biggest selling calibre.


If an animal wasn't anchored it is not because the bullet was .284 in diameter as opposed to .264 or another.

Stu.
To be clear on his stance it wasn't so much the caliber but more so his belief that the shape, ie length, width, density etc. makes it tougher than other calibers to properly expand a bullet therefore you get more pencil sized holes through the animal with very little expansion.
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Old 10-14-2010, 04:48 PM
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I have seen that with all the smaller calibers when proper bullets are not used. But with proper bullets the 7mm is just fine. Naturally as you go up in caliber the damage is greater. But dead is dead. Longer bullets are actually better with a good controled expansion hunting bullet because you have that long body to taper back into a large mushroom creating more damage. I am kinda like the guy you heard from. 40 years experience, guided and seen many animals taken with everything out there. The ones that didn't work had an explanation. It was the bullet, shot placement, but not the caliber.
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My favorite all time hunting rifle is my Ruger 7mm Rem Mag. It has made some pretty impressive shots for me. I have with few exceptions ever seen a deer hit broadside through the lungs go down immediately. If they had there was usually a shoulder involved. The 7mm does have a very long and slender design to it. Therefore they seem to penetrate deep. Like it had been mentioned above. Bullet selection is key. I personally believe that if you want to see what a bullet is made of. Load a 7mm Rem Mag and shoot something close with it.
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To be clear on his stance it wasn't so much the caliber but more so his belief that the shape, ie length, width, density etc. makes it tougher than other calibers to properly expand a bullet therefore you get more pencil sized holes through the animal with very little expansion.
If that was the case than the 6.5 and 270 would be worse. If you compare 140 gr bullets in these three calibres then the 7 mm has the smallest sectional density and would be less likely to pencil through.
Even 150 gr in 270 and 7mm, the 270 is a longer thinner projectile so by your reasoning will be more likely to pencil, and I think the 150 gr 270 has been proven to be a very efficent killing bullet.

I stand by my earlier statement, the calibre of the bullet had nothing to do with it.
I agree with LTLR it was the bullet or shot placement that had the adverse effect.

Stu.
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