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Old 02-12-2012, 12:36 PM
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Re: 7mm rem mag vs. 270 win

Yep OKIE it is funny, hell I've seen 2 black bear "DRT" shot from 30-40yrds with a 22lr!
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Old 02-12-2012, 12:45 PM
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Re: 7mm rem mag vs. 270 win

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Yep OKIE it is funny, hell I've seen 2 black bear "DRT" shot from 30-40yrds with a 22lr!

Heck I got a DRT on a cottontail with my Red Ryder at 30 yards the other day!!

I chronyed it at 212fps!

Of course my buddies aren't going to not take me cottontail hunting anymore for having to track that big bull cottontail for 3 days!
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Old 02-12-2012, 01:04 PM
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Re: 7mm rem mag vs. 270 win

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Yep OKIE it is funny, hell I've seen 2 black bear "DRT" shot from 30-40yrds with a 22lr!
I know my uncle never used anything but a 22 lr for deer.
stuff like this is why I quit buying gun magizines over 20 years ago all the gun writers telling you that you need a 50 bmg to kill deer & 750 grain bullets.
I use my 264 mag for deer hunting because it is so accurate but only use 100
nosler Btips you don't need heavy bullets.
Another thing I don't buy is guys buy a 22 caliber and need 90 grain bullets for it or the 18 inch barrels. You know pump them up and then cut the barrel off.
Just don't make good sinse to me.
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Old 02-12-2012, 03:43 PM
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Re: 7mm rem mag vs. 270 win

one of the things that concerns me when we start talking 500+ yard shots on big game is the mentality that all you need is a bigger rifle.
The original post was 270 vs 7mm mag........but the truth of the matter is just simply moving up to a 7mm mag from a 270...or 300 mag or 338 or whatever does not mean you are ultra ;long range capable. Ultra long range meaning over 500 yds. when you get to the 500 and beyond range. It really requires specialized equip...Just as important if not more important as the caliber rifle you shoot are things like your scope...your range finder and your ammunition..your ability to calculate wind drift, spin drift..ect 500+ yards is no place to be using wal mart equipment when shooting at big game...There is a huge difference in bullet drop and wind drift as yardage increases....The ability to make the needed adjustments on an elk at 200 yds or at 700 yds...huge, HUGE, HUGE!!! difference. you may get away with guessing your hold over out to 400 or even 500 yds with the common sporter , and common scope...but you will not....much beyond that....beyond that you will need to calculate...and make precise adjustment with your equipment..namely your scope....A guy with a 7mm rem mag....with the proper equip...is much better off than a guy with a 338 and the common every day stuff....to shoot ultra long range...be prepared to shell out some money to get set up....i happen to be a very, very good shot...out to say 400yds or a little better...after that i won't shoot...not because i can't or that i don't have a big enough cal...but because i lack the proper equip to take the guess work out of it.....big game animals are no place to be trying out your.."lucky shot"
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Old 02-12-2012, 04:22 PM
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Re: 7mm rem mag vs. 270 win

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one of the things that concerns me when we start talking 500+ yard shots on big game is the mentality that all you need is a bigger rifle.
The original post was 270 vs 7mm mag........but the truth of the matter is just simply moving up to a 7mm mag from a 270...or 300 mag or 338 or whatever does not mean you are ultra ;long range capable. Ultra long range meaning over 500 yds. when you get to the 500 and beyond range. It really requires specialized equip...Just as important if not more important as the caliber rifle you shoot are things like your scope...your range finder and your ammunition..your ability to calculate wind drift, spin drift..ect 500+ yards is no place to be using wal mart equipment when shooting at big game...There is a huge difference in bullet drop and wind drift as yardage increases....The ability to make the needed adjustments on an elk at 200 yds or at 700 yds...huge, HUGE, HUGE!!! difference. you may get away with guessing your hold over out to 400 or even 500 yds with the common sporter , and common scope...but you will not....much beyond that....beyond that you will need to calculate...and make precise adjustment with your equipment..namely your scope....A guy with a 7mm rem mag....with the proper equip...is much better off than a guy with a 338 and the
common every day stuff....to shoot ultra long range...be prepared to shell out some money to get set up....i happen to be a very, very good shot...out to say 400yds or a little better...after that i won't shoot...not because i can't or that i don't have a big enough cal...but because i lack the proper equip to take the guess work out of it.....big game animals are no place to be trying out your.."lucky shot"
Here, here. Well put.
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Old 02-12-2012, 04:37 PM
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Re: 7mm rem mag vs. 270 win

assuming in the original post the statement was..a rifle capable of reaching out to 700 yds..if i'm not mistaken using the 1800 ft lbs of energy limit..the 7mm mag will fall below that with the best loads somewhere around 800 yds.
keeping this in mind, i'm assuming your talking about shooting elk from 0 to 700 yds.
i stand to be corrected .. but with a 162 gr boattail bullet leaving the muzzle at 3000fps. and a 300 yd zero...your bullet will strike somewhere around 4' feet low at 600 yds 10 feet low at 800 and if you want to stretch it to 1000 yds it will be somewhere in the neighborhood of 18 feet below point of aim.

long range shooting at elk is no place to be guessing, using the" ole kentucky windage and elevation" method ......give as much thought into your scope and rifle ,and ammo as what cal rifle. no cal is going to shoot like a lazer beam.
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Old 02-12-2012, 05:01 PM
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Re: 7mm rem mag vs. 270 win

Thanks fellas for everything! To the most recent posts I completely agree and understand that fully, I practice very much and wouldn't dare take a shot I know that is out of my range especially on an animal. I am a respectful hunter and this is why I'm trying to gather as much information as I can from people such as yourselves before I make any choices. I am a good shot, and continue to practice and work on my tech. So I agree!
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