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Old 07-07-2012, 08:11 AM
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Re: 7mm rem mag vs. 270 win

THis is a *great* thread and thanks so much for asking such a pertinent question (despite the likelihood of ignorant/biased posters de-railing/subverting positive dialogue about your question).

I'm currently in the beginning stages of a move to a "elk-hunting-possible" state (a life-long dream) and have a 7RM i'd love to use for elk hunting.

However, i've read so much about the more humane killing ability of the fast, modern .338 cartridges for elk at longer ranges i was in a bit of a quandry. I was considering whether to start saving for something custom in a fast .338 or if i'd be able to have my "old" (my 1983 HS grad present) Rem700 ADL 7RM "modernized". The saving process would have taken a LONG time for me as i'm in transition.

Since my longest game kill is ~525yds (using my 7RM, 175grn factory loads and iron sights back in 1985....) and i've not shot in far too long, i'm now more convinced than ever that my 7RM, with reloading (need to re-acquire that stuff too), i can *easily* get out to 600 with diligence in training.

This discussion has profoundly good timing!!!
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Old 07-07-2012, 09:23 AM
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Re: 7mm rem mag vs. 270 win

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THis is a *great* thread and thanks so much for asking such a pertinent question (despite the likelihood of ignorant/biased posters de-railing/subverting positive dialogue about your question).

I'm currently in the beginning stages of a move to a "elk-hunting-possible" state (a life-long dream) and have a 7RM i'd love to use for elk hunting.

However, i've read so much about the more humane killing ability of the fast, modern .338 cartridges for elk at longer ranges i was in a bit of a quandry. I was considering whether to start saving for something custom in a fast .338 or if i'd be able to have my "old" (my 1983 HS grad present) Rem700 ADL 7RM "modernized". The saving process would have taken a LONG time for me as i'm in transition.

Since my longest game kill is ~525yds (using my 7RM, 175grn factory loads and iron sights back in 1985....) and i've not shot in far too long, i'm now more convinced than ever that my 7RM, with reloading (need to re-acquire that stuff too), i can *easily* get out to 600 with diligence in training.

This discussion has profoundly good timing!!!


I think this is an excellent thread as well. The one thing I have learned over the years is that in every sport or hobby, the "geek" flag is likely to be raised. What I mean is, we are all "hot-rodders" at heart I think. It's in mans nature to speculate on how to do things better, more efficiently, or, simply to make them more cool. You definitely DO NOT need a 338 for your intended use. Your current rifle will DEFINITELY do the job in an excellent fashion. (assuming it’s in good condition etc. So, what is my point? Well, I think folks get mired down in trying to justify "need" through "data".

What I want, or would enjoy having, or just like to monkey around with has NOTHING to do with what I actually need. I have to admit, probably 90% plus of the game animals I have harvested could have been harvested easily, effectively, and humanely with the same 30 06' My Dad gave me when I was 11. Sure, as I have grown older and more proficient, I have taken some animals at distances that would outpace that old rifle. But, I haven’t really "needed" more. Yet, I find myself with a safe full of "more"

In your example, I would be the guy who would tinker with my old Remington, bedding it etc, to get the most out of it, re-barreling etc, spending more money on it than I most likely could ever recover, and certainly more than I could just go buy what I was after. But, that wouldn’t be nearly as satisfying, or fun.


I will share an anecdote I heard in a hunting camp a couple seasons ago. A group of guys was bench racing about caliber (imagine that!) and which was best for the Elk we were seeking. One fellow said " you have to shoot a .30 cal or greater if you are serious", this Old fellow said " well, if a 7 mag is better than a 270, and a 300 win mag is better than that, and a 338 is better than that, maybe you should just shoot your .50 Barret" We all laughed, but he was right, of course. Better is subjective ;)

That same Old Timer went on to harvest his one hundred and something Elk with his old Winny 06' with its 2 1/2 power Lyman scope and his Winchester silvertips.

Enjoy your sport, enjoy your gear, if you WANT a 338, get one, it's an awesome round. But, you darn sure don't "need" it! Lol.
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