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7mm Rem Mag load for Elk size game at 700 yards.

 
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Old 06-26-2013, 09:08 PM
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Re: 7mm Rem Mag load for Elk size game at 700 yards.

Jumpalot

What load are you running in your 7mag? just curios
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Old 06-26-2013, 09:23 PM
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Re: 7mm Rem Mag load for Elk size game at 700 yards.

joe king, it wasnt near as bad as i thought it would be. im no gunsmith but i have access to tools and am in the construction/carpentry line of work so im decent with common sense type stuff...most of the time lol *alot of youtube viewing helped too. if someone is doing a tang safety m77 try checking out mauser action bedding, it helped me a lil more than looking for ruger m77. which there really isnt alot of stuff for out there. i was trying to look for a drop in barrel replacement before i did all the glass bedding but couldnt find anything. im pretty pumped to see how it does when i get some glass on it. all in all i think it came out pretty good for my first time going through the process.
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Old 06-26-2013, 09:25 PM
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Re: 7mm Rem Mag load for Elk size game at 700 yards.

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Jumpalot

What load are you running in your 7mag? just curios
68 grains of H1000 over a CCI 250 primer in Norma brass seated at the lands. I could go probably 2 grains more but this load shoots very well out to 1000 yds.
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Old 06-26-2013, 10:07 PM
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Re: 7mm Rem Mag load for Elk size game at 700 yards.

I tried H1000 with the 168gr classic hunter oh man it shot good. when I decided to try the 180's I figured, meh may as well give Retumbo a go while I'm at it. Gained a little over 100fps over the Classic hunter and put my vel right at what a lot of guys are reporting with their 300wm and 215gr Hybrids.
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Old 06-26-2013, 10:30 PM
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Re: 7mm Rem Mag load for Elk size game at 700 yards.

My ES with the Retumbo was 37 fps and ES with the H1000 was 9 fps. About 100 fps faster with Retumbo but my groups fell apart after 500 yds. I opted for the better accuracy. Don't get me wrong, I love my 7mm RM. In fact, I had it built because of the better BC Bergers available at the time over the 30 cal. But the new 215 and 230 Bergers have changed all that. Even if you get the same speed with the 7mm as the 30 cal., you are still shooting a 35 grain heavier bullet and on elk that matters. I'm probably going to go back to the 168 VLD in the 7mm and use it primarily for antelope and deer. Killed an antelope over 900 yds with that load. Wouldn't hesitate to use it on elk either.
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Re: 7mm Rem Mag load for Elk size game at 700 yards.

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Jumpalot

What load are you running in your 7mag? just curios
Nothing wrong with the 7mm Rem Mag and "light" bullets.
I just came back from shooting a 410" Bull Elk / Wapiti in New Zealand.
Rifle was a stainless Rem 700 in 7mm Rem Mag shooting factory Swift Sirocco 150 grain bullets.
Deer was 300 yards away facing me at around 15 degrees turned to his right and did not present a good side shot into the shoulder or into the lungs.
So I took the option and shot him in the neck for a one shot kill.
Will post pictures later.
Good bullet placement is more important than saying bigger and better bullets are vital.
I do in fact shoot bigger and heavier bullets in 338 and 375 calibres but am merely stating that smaller calibres can be very effective.
Just my opinion here.
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Old 06-27-2013, 07:05 AM
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Re: 7mm Rem Mag load for Elk size game at 700 yards.

totally agree witht he bullet placement on about any shot. i was curious as to if you would target a different spot on one of theese aimals depending on distance. seeing that some of theese bullets are recomended for 200-300 yards out for proper exspansion. what if you see that monster at 50 yards? do you shoot and hope that the bullet doesnt pass right through them or dissentigrate before it penetrates? i read a couple of stories about massive wounds but not killing the animal.
i knwo this is for elk sized game but would the 180 bergers be good for everything out west? i have some 160 noslers now but wanted to get my hands on some bergers to test the accuracy aswell when i get the setup finnished.
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