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Old 03-11-2013, 04:20 PM
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...I have said this before to guys who say a 7mm Rem is not a good 1000 yard killer and no one takes me up on it. Give John Burns a call and let him know a 7mm Rem is not a good 1000 yard rifle and see what he has to say. Please report it back here if you do call him.



The OP, being a novice shooter, is NOT John Burns.... hell why stop there? Lets give German Salazar a call... or better yet, lets call David Tubb. You sir are comparing apples to oranges.

A well built & fitted rifle WILL mitigate recoil but it cannot make up the difference in internal performance.


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I can tell you this I have shot 4 elk and roughly 120 deer. Two elk were shot with 30cals the other two were shot with a 7mm STW. Out of the deer I have shot I would say close to 40 with a 7mm of some sort and 30 ish with a 30 Cal and the rest have been with a mix of calibers. I have yet to see a difference between a 7mm and a 30 and I think I have 70 ish deer taken and 4 elk to go by.
There also is a huge difference in recoil between a 7mm and a 300 win with all things being equal and the OP might not want a muzzle brake. If bigger is better why waste your time with a little 300 RUM? Why not go 338 Edge or 375 Rum? That little squeaker of a 30 has got nothing on those two no matter what bullet you stuff in it. I have said this before to guys who say a 7mm Rem is not a good 1000 yard killer and no one takes me up on it. Give John Burns a call and let him know a 7mm Rem is not a good 1000 yard rifle and see what he has to say. Please report it back here if you do call him.
I am disputing nothing of what you say. I have already said that a 7RM could get the job done. I also said that I would not assure nor recommend a 7RM for 1000 yd elk slaying. Are you recommending it over a 300 WM for that purpose?

I would have very little problem with shooting smaller game at that range with that cartridge and if all ihad was a 7RM and everything was just right I would probably venture a reasonble 1000 yd shot an elk at 1000 yds. I would be much more confident with a 300 WM at that range on elk. Do you disagree?

I have killed more animals with a 7RM than any other cartridge. It's a good cartridge, but it's not a 300 WM.

Do you consider the 7RM equal to the 300 WM in killing potential especially at longer ranges?

How far was your farthest shot on an elk with a 7RM?

Would you recommend a 7RM to the OP or anyone else who may be reading this, OVER a 300 WM for long range elk hunting?
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There also is a huge difference in recoil between a 7mm and a 300 win with all things being equal and the OP might not want a muzzle brake. If bigger is better why waste your time with a little 300 RUM.
BTW, there are not huge differences in recoil. I have shot both. I have also shot an unbraked 300 RUM and I'm not a big guy.

Bigger is better and I'm not asking which would be better between a 300 RUM and a 338 EDGE. The EDGE is better just like the 300 WM is better than a 7 RM just like a 7RM is better than a 270 WSM.

The question is which is better between the 7RM and the 300WM. Lets stay on subject
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Well!!! That pretty much sums it up!!! Also didn't the man say about a page an a half ago that he's goin with a 7mag???
No it doesn't sum it up.

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Enough to kill all north americas big game out to 1000 yards? Some say go with .300....
The 300 WM is the better choice. The OP decided on the 7 because he didn't want a muzzle brake. And I wished him good luck in his endeavors.
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Why does everything always have to come down to a perverbial d*ck measuring contest between the .284 fans and the .30 cal guys? And then there's the big-bore 20mm folks that have to have calibers that should be mounted on an M1 Abrahms...It's a joke, laugh you non-sense of humor people.

I have 4 main hunting rifles.

I can do anything I need to, inside of 750 yards with my .257 Weatherby Mag with a 110gr Accubond. Period.

I also have a 7mm Rem Mag that I can do the same with 160gr Accubonds.

I also have a .308 for long-range target shooting.

I also have a 7mmSTW for everything beyond...

What I am getting at is this..... I have multiple different calibers for a reason, they all serve a different purpose. It's not a matter of buying what's popular so you can fit in the with "in crowd" of the gun world. That would be like buying a .308 just b/c that's what snipers use so you can feel like you're cool, too....That's stupid. But what do you expect....Most people are monkey-see, monkey-do.

That's like all these people selling their personal .308's just b/c the military is swapping over exclusively to the .300 WM for their M24's. That's another dumb move. But hey, try telling them that...

Buy what you want, that will make you happy, and also serve the legit purposes you need it for.

Everyone gets all defensive when people talk **** about their caliber, but 90% of the people talking ****, have never even shot one, or handled one, or even seen a bullet for one. It's just like the old saying about opinions being like sphincters....Everybody's got one.

It's not a matter of what you need, it's a matter of what you want.

Do I need a .50BMG......No. Do I want one....You damn right. It will serve absolutely no purpose for me, other than to shoot at long-range metal targets. But I know that, and I'll be the first to admit it. Am I buying it so my friends will think I'm cool.....No. I'm buying it b/c I WANT it. Not because it's practical, or economical, or easy to carry around and maneuver....

Unless you're shooting Moose, I don't see any need for something over .30 caliber, unless you're shooting beyond 1500 yards.


Call me wrong, call me right......I don't care. This post's intention was never to be discussed. It's my opinion. It's correct in my mind. And I'm voicing it.

Now, continue with your thread.
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I'm not gonna say that the 300WM is better! I'm not gonna say that it is not better! You!!! Sir say its better!! To each his own!! Just because you say it's better, doesn't meen it is!! That's the choice an The Right of the individual, whoever it may be!! The OP said earlier that he had made up his mind on what caliber he wants!!! Why are you sir still trying to change his mind?????
Now!!! That Sums It Up!!!!
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Mud runner!!
I couldn't agree more!!! Great Post!!!!!!!

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