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Unread 05-22-2010, 03:10 PM
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I am 16 years old and wanting to get a long range rifle of my own. Me and my dad have never had a long range gun but we are real interested in it, I cant afford to get one of the rifles from best of the west, which I wish I could, cause I donít know much about loads, barrels, all of that. But I would like to get kinda a tutorial from you guys. I want to get a 7mm, and probably just get some custom work done to it, I will shoot bergers vldís most likely, but just donít know what I should do or get. I will have to get a factory gun and just do some gunsmithing to it. I will reload and everything so I can spend my summer/ breaks from school to figure it all out, I just need a basis to start out at. I would like to be able to shoot out to 1000 yards accurately, I know I wont be able to do that at first but I would just like the gun to be capable of that. So if you all could give me some info that would be great. thanks
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Unread 05-22-2010, 05:35 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: South Central PA
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Re: 7mm

In my opinion the 7mm is a great choice. As far as what gun well you will have 50 people tell you 50 different things as far as which one they think is best. I dont know how much you have to spend but i will tell you this. Savage makes one of the best rifles from the factory you can get these days. I have one in 300WSM that has had no work done to it, i just put a Choate stock on it and some good handloads and shot a 2.812inch group at 550yards. 16" group at 1000yards. i dont know many other factory guns that can say that. You choose what rifle you want because you will be the one shooting it not any of us. Here is the specs on Savages Long Range Hunter model in 7mm. Go to their website and check it out.

Rifle details:

Model: 111 Long Range Hunter
Series: HunterAccuTrigger: YesSights: Drilled and tapped for scope mountsAccuStock : YesMagazine: hinged floorplateStock material: SyntheticBarrel material: Carbon SteelStock finish: MatteBarrel finish: MatteStock color: BlackBarrel color: BlackAction:Long
Features:Karsten adjustable comb, Adjustable muzzlebrakeAvailable chamberings:
SKUCaliber:Rate of
Cap.:MSRP**:Barrel:Overall:188987MM REM MAG1 in 9.5"26"47.5"8.65 lbs3$934.00

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Unread 05-22-2010, 05:46 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Lancaster, PA
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Re: 7mm

I suggest buying something you can use now without putting a lot into it but still have something to build off in the future, rem sendero or savage. Get a muzzle brake. Buy good base, rings and glass to start with. Does not have to be NF or higher but the best you can afford. I really like Leupold for the value. Don't be afraid of used stuff.

If you're set on a 7mm, and that's fine, then I'd recommend one of the short mags or the 7mm rem mag. Not the RUM for a first LR gun.

Buy the stuff you NEED and then the stuff you WANT. You don't need a level or cosine indicator to get started. You will want one in time. When getting a range finder spend the money for a Leica or Swaro and you'll only need to buy one. I'm on #3 by trying to go cheap and only buying one that was good for as far as I could shoot when I bought it.

Try to find someone local to help you out. It will make life much easier.

Best wishes,
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Unread 05-22-2010, 06:06 PM
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Join Date: May 2009
Location: illinois
Posts: 165
Re: 7mm

you can't go wrong with any of the 7mm's. take a good look at a savage rifles, great out of the box and you can do all your own gunsmithing with them. it's very easy to change your own barrels, triggers, stocks, anything you like can be done at home
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Unread 05-22-2010, 07:04 PM
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Location: polson MT.
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Re: 7mm

GET A SAVAGE 111 long range hunter it comes with a 26 in. barrel-and it comes with a muzzlebrake. acc. stock acc triger. no outher factory rifle give you this.
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Unread 05-22-2010, 07:20 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: SW MT or noVA
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Re: 7mm

I'm also a 16yr old long range hunter, so we probably have lot of the same problems. Mainly money

I have 2 remington 700s and one savage, out of the box, the savage is great. Mine is a model 116 FLHSS in 300 win mag, then had my gunsmith install a brake.
Get a savage. Out of the box they are hard to beat. I would say get a long action savage with a varmint contour barrel, restock, use the barrel to practice and shoot it out, then rebarrel to whatever caliber you want. Get one (or more) of those shilen, pacnor, or a douglas/brux from sharpshooter supply. They are prechambered and contoured, $300-450 and you screw it on at home and your good to go.

As for caliber, since this is your first long range gun, you will want and need to practice, A LOT. I rarely go a week without trigger time, maybe once every 2-3months.
Therefore, while a fast 7mm sure is cool, it comes at the expense of barrel life. What rifles do you have right now? a .308 is awsome for hunting to 800 (if the wind isnt howling) and practice. Then for a 7mm i personaly love the .284win. Pick whichever one you like, anything that will shoot the 168 or 180 VLD at 2900+ will be pretty freakin awsome.

shoot me a pm if you need any help, im on lrh a ton and always willing to help when i can.

Finaly, where are you located? finding another local guy to help show you the ropes is a huge plus. Really improves your learning curve.
"Out of range" is a theoretical concept as far as I'm concerned. Send it!
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Unread 05-22-2010, 07:44 PM
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Re: 7mm

Find a remington 700 in a sendero they shoot great. Some day if you want to have some custom work done the 700 is still the gun that is customized the most. If its made for a gun its made for a remington 700.
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